Selene Delgado Lopez and Joanna Lopez: Real Missing Women or Non-Existent?

**Discussion begins at 7:30**

In the late 1990s, Mexican Channel 5 would cut into cartoons and late night shows,  with a solemn voice and grainy black and white photos of missing people who had vanished without a trace.  One of these missing women was Selene Delgado, Lopez.  But decades later, nobody can agree on whether she ever existed.  Was Selene a real 18 year old who disappeared in Mexico City and whose case slipped through the cracks?  Or was she a media fabrication?  After all these years there are no official records, not family testimony, and no confirmed sightings.  And she's not the only one... In the 1980s, Chicago residents remember seeing a grainy black and white photo of another missing woman named Joanna Lopez that would air after the nightly news had wrapped.  But when the internet tried to solve the mystery decades later, things only got stranger. Records were scarce. Police files were practically nonexistent. Was Joanna ever truly reported missing? Was she part of a PSA campaign gone wrong? A broadcasting error? Or something else entirely?  This wee we are diving deep into these cases and attempting to get to the bottom of the truth about these two women.  

Transcript

Hey, it's Colleen.

Hi, it's Kait.

And it's Megan.

And we're the 3SchemeQueens.

Join us each week as we take turns presenting a brand new conspiracy theory or mystery.

From shadowy cover-ups and unexplained events to viral rabbit holes, we bring the tea, its piping, the facts, and the tin foil crowns.

Join the conversation, laugh along with us, and question everything.

When it's all over, we'll tell you what we think, and we'll try to prove it to you.

So grab your drink, hit the follow, and tune in every Tuesday.

Is this thing on?

Welcome back.

Happy New Year.

Happy 2026.

I can't believe it's 2026.

I've said this again and again, I hate even numbers. Even year numbers just feel wrong. Or maybe it's just the 26 feels wrong.

I'm starting the year off in negativity. Can't stand the number.

Well, thank you guys for sticking with us. We took a little Christmas break, celebrated our birthday.

Tell them about our rap results, Megan. Top 5 percent.

Did you share it to the gram? I did. You sprung that on her.

You did spring that on her.

I'm sorry, never mind.

We were a 2025 rising star, so our show's growth outpaced 95 percent of other shows.

95.

Yeah.

We were a 2025 marathon show, meaning that fans listened to us longer than 93 percent of other shows.

Wow.

And we were a 2025 talked-about show, meaning we received more comments than 96 percent of other shows. So thank you, Erin.

My sister.

Yeah.

Commenting on everybody.

We really don't have that many comments, so that just goes to show that I keep saying, we're always sort of in the top 5 percent, but the top 5 percent is like a lot. Yeah. Tens of thousands.

But the 95 percent growth is pretty good.

Yeah.

It's not even we're flexing, it's you guys are flexing for us.

Thank you.

Thank you to our listeners who continue to show up every week or every couple of weeks whenever you guys want to listen to a mystery or a conspiracy that is to your liking.

We appreciate every listen.

Yeah. In 110 different countries at this point, I believe. Oh my gosh.

So it's more countries than I've been to.

Another little announcement.

So you guys may have realized when we did our kind of re-releases, you know, usually we re-release our favorites, but this time we re-released audience favorites. And it was a lot of sort of like internet mysteries and that kind of thing.

So we're still going to talk conspiracy theories. There's so many out there, but we're going to broaden things this year.

Yep.

Right. Talk about some other interesting things.

Just, yeah. Interesting things, mysterious things.

Phenomenons.

It doesn't necessarily, the point is we're not gonna stick to conspiracy theories, but stay sort of in the same realm.

You know, we've kind of dabbled with true crime. So maybe a little more of that. Definitely you guys seem to love the internet mysteries and rabbit holes.

We're gonna talk about one of those today. So you'll still hear some conspiracy theories if that's what you came for, but we hear our audience and we're gonna expand. Yeah.

Just thank you guys so much for a great year of podcasting.

It was fun. Another year in the books.

Mic'd up.

Not me.

Shout out to Megan for the follow through always though.

Well, shout out to my creative ladies over here who follow through when pressed.

10% of the time.

But you guys bring all the good ideas to the table.

Follow through when pressed and also excited. Okay. Well, shout out to Megan who loves the documentary, who loves the deep dive, who loves the mystery, and just loves going down the rabbit holes.

Shout out to Colleen and I who like to listen.

We do.

Thank you guys for enabling the hobby. I think it's kind of the same thing, right? Kait, we talked about this in our birthday episode.

She does her own obsessive rabbit holes. It's just right now she's having to wrap up the stranger things.

And I'm happy with it.

So she's the only one of us who's watched the finale. I'm going to watch it after we record here. We can't talk about it, but it has been all stranger things before Thanksgiving.

Yeah, since Thanksgiving, really.

Yeah.

And this summer we lived the summer I turned pretty with you.

Yeah. There's a lot of things that I obsessed about this year.

It hasn't been horrible in a while.

No. We started with Onyx Storm and the fourth wing trilogy.

Glorious.

Well, I guess it's supposed to be five books. We started with that and then we went on to the summer I turned pretty and then we ended on Hawkins, Indiana, Stranger Things. So I'd say it was a great year for nerd lore.

Yeah.

Summarize it up. Good year for nerds.

Yeah. Great year for nerds.

4:56

Drink Check

So is it time for our drink check?

Drink check.

What are we drinking today, Megan?

Today we're having a Negroni.

A Negroni.

But a Negroni made with bourbon.

With bourbon.

So it was bourbon, Campari, and sweet vermouth.

I think the Campari is sort of a lot for us, but we added some OJ though, and we smoked it, and that's...

The smoke was fun.

It's pretty good, huh?

The smoke is good.

Yeah. The smoke tastes good.

You know, usually I like to have someone make a cocktail for me, a cocktail and a salad, you know? They never taste as good when you make them for yourself.

Yeah, I agree.

And so I like to go to my parents and have my dad make me a cocktail, and usually he smokes them. But he got an electric smoker for fire safety.

Yeah.

And I was like so impressed by it. I went online and they were like 20 bucks. So got myself one, got one for some of the men in my life.

Yeah.

And we tested it out for the first time, and it was delicious.

Fun.

It was super fun. It looked like a witch's brew. I would say in the scale of drink checks, it's a five.

Out of 10?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's down there.

I agree.

And I did say, I said it looks pretty though. Mostly I was just afraid to make. I really wanted an old fashion.

I wanted to smoke it, but I was afraid I wouldn't be able to live up to bourbon boys.

He does make a good one.

And then Kate said, don't even bother with a Manhattan because I only like my dad.

Yeah.

So I was really just trying to find a drink that wasn't going to be compared to. But yeah, I don't think any of us are Campari girls.

So no. And I think that I just find one thing that I really like and just stick to it. And if it doesn't taste like that.

Yeah, we know you're so low maintenance.

I could be more high maintenance.

And you're lucky I'm not.

Yeah.

I don't do all those lash extensions.

No, but that's why you come off as being low maintenance.

But then you get to know you.

But then you're not.

No, it's a trick. It's a trap. Uno reverse.

I met Bourbon Boy in the gym, but it turns out I'm more than just a girl in sweats, you know?

She needs particular fabrics.

Yeah.

Particular fabric.

Particular foos.

Yeah.

Do you say particular detergent?

Yeah.

Particular deodorant.

Yeah.

Particular cleaning products.

Of sufficient sleep. Must be fed every two hours, but must be to her liking.

Beep well hydrated and fed and low chemical all the time.

I'm just the plant.

Let me pull up the videos.

Are we doing a Colleen style deep dive?

Tic-tacs?

It is sort of a...

I'm so at peace right now.

7:38

Selene Delgado Lopez

It is an internet mystery.

In the late 1900s, Mexican television would cut into cartoons and late night shows with a solemn voice and grainy black and white photos of missing people who had vanished without a trace. Whoa.

One of those names was Selene Delgado Lopez, but decades later, nobody can agree on whether she ever existed. Well, was Selene a real 18-year-old who disappeared in Mexico City and whose case slipped through the cracks of time and bureaucracy?

Or was she just a media fabrication?

This is like she never existed.

Yeah, that's the question. Some say Selene's photo was digitally generated. Others insist the story is concocted to instill fear or caution.

Still, after all these years, no official records, no family testimony, no confirmed sighting has ever surfaced. And she's not the only one.

Wait, did nobody ever report a mi- Oh my gosh, I'm so confused.

Yeah. Chicago residents remember seeing a grainy black and white photo of a different missing person, Joanna Lopez, that would air after the nightly news had wrapped and the station shut off.

But when the internet tried to solve the mystery decades later, things only got stranger. Records were scarce. Police files were practically non-existent.

Was Joanna ever truly reported missing? Was she part of a PSA campaign gone wrong, a broadcasting air, or something else entirely?

Today, we're going to deep dive into these cases and try to get to the bottom of the truth about these two missing women.

Oh my gosh. I'm so confused.

So here's the video of the first one, which we're going to talk about here.

Yeah, she looks like a teenager.

This would freak me out.

Yeah, you're just chilling out watching cartoons and then it pops up.

Yeah, that would freak me out.

That's why people remember it. They have these childhood memories because it was very traumatic.

Was it late night that they would do this? I guess at what time would they do it?

Well, this particular one, the story we're going to talk about first, Selene Delgado, it was like during cartoons in the morning. For children? Yes.

So these kids grew up and these kids are on Reddit and they're like, I remember chilling watching my cartoons and this video coming on.

Oh my gosh.

So Televisa is a Mexican multimedia company that owned Channel 5, which used to play kids cartoons and that kind of thing. In the 90s or early 2000s, they had this segment called Servicio a la Comunidad.

Servicio a la Comunidad.

Perfect. That's a beautiful accent. Between shows, they would broadcast Missing People, so very like kind of face on the milk cartony.

Yeah.

The shows that were airing were bought from Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon.

So just imagine your kid watching Nickelodeon cartoons and this segment comes on.

Yeah. I remember watching Nickelodeon cartoons. If that segment came on, it would be terrifying.

So people talk again about how weird it was that you're just like watching some kid show and then suddenly this like true crime story interrupts.

And when they would come up, it would be a picture, a name, and their last known location. That was like all the information that was there. But it didn't talk about like the details of their background.

So twice during this segment, the photo of Selene Delgado Lopez was aired. She always appeared with the same photo, that grainy black and white photo with an all white background that I showed you.

And they said the 18-year-old had reportedly disappeared in Mexico City on April 22nd, unclear what year.

And this was on American TV?

This is in Mexico.

Okay.

Because that photo was so grainy, everyone said that she had like very generic facial features. So it caused many people to speculate that this may have been like a computer generated AI photo.

Oh, like AI all the way back in the day.

Yeah, in the 90s. So internet sleuths couldn't find any information on her disappearance. And that's kind of what has fueled this theory that maybe she was never real.

So there's this creepy website, Floresita Dreams. And they claimed they used 3D modeling programs and they determined that like composite photos and kind of other people's faces were used to create this fake photo of this alleged Selena.

They're making these accusations. Who Floresita Dreams is? I don't know.

Do we trust them? Sounds kind of crazy.

Sounds a little weird. Sounds like a fake name.

But they said that the photo of Selena, quote, kinetically fits non-human AI generated faces using the constant tau. They claim that facial reconstructions cause uneasiness in observers.

So when we look at facial reconstructions, we get uncomfortable. And that makes sense. Yeah.

And so they demonstrate how like her face could have been this mashup and maybe the motivation was to sort of like make us uncomfortable, try to creep us out. So what would, why would they want to do that? Right?

Yeah.

Where are they?

Children.

Yeah.

Were they trying to get us, creep us out and like get us to remember?

Yeah.

Like, were they just trying to scare us and to like be safe?

You can go missing? I don't know. It's unlikely that they didn't have enough missing people to fill their segment.

Because there were hundreds of thousands of missing people. So no need to make one up. I tried to confirm like how many missing people there were during this period, between 1990 and 2010 in Mexico.

But there's really no good data because there were, which kind of goes back to could she be real, there were a lot of disappearances during this time related to organized crime.

Like human trafficking.

The Ciudad Juarez femicides, which is when hundreds of young working class women who worked in factories were murdered or disappeared. There's also a correlation between missing people and the governments who were on drugs.

They're saying during this period there was a lot of sketchy stuff happening, and the government really didn't do a good job of conducting thorough investigations. We don't have a lot of records.

I guess this would have been before computerized records. Because of that, a lot of families would just search for their missing family members on their own instead of dealing with the government.

But as of now, there are currently over 125,000 missing people in Mexico. Almost all of those are from Act 2006, though, when they started actually like tracking records.

Yeah.

Yeah. But I mean, they didn't even keep the Mexican government's pretty corrupt.

Yeah.

I would not trust the Mexican government to do the job to find my children either.

Fast forward to about 2019 to 2020. The Twitter account for Channel 5, again, that was the channel that in the 90s aired the segment. It started posting creepy videos.

And then like at 3 in the morning, it would post this creepy video for like an hour or two and it would take it down. And these were creepy videos from around the internet. And one of them was titled Selene.

And everyone thought this was a reference to Selene Delgado. And then it turned out that all these creepy videos, I mean, it was like trending on Twitter. It was really hot.

And so were all these creepy videos like part of a marketing scheme. It was like a marketing tool. And they were trying to kind of capitalize it on the internet lore.

So that was the purpose of all of this, was this reference with the Selene reference in one of the videos. Was that perhaps them leaning in to the online conversation about is this person real?

Which also kind of makes you feel like if they're not above that, who's to say they wouldn't make something up? Exactly.

But I can't believe that they would think like that in 30 years, we're going to talk about this like two second clip of some girl.

I mean, we are. We are.

Yeah. How would they have known? I don't know.

I don't know.

I still don't understand the purpose of if it is fake.

Like, what is the purpose to just fear monger?

Yeah, I'm going to talk a little bit more about it. But yeah, that's one of the theories. Is it trying to be like, women, be careful.

Are they trying to be like a PR tool? Like, here we are talking about Channel 5, right? That's one of the theories, but we'll get a little more in depth into that.

Then the plot thickened in 2020 because people thought that they had found this girl on Facebook. As like a grown woman. There was Selene Delgado Lopez.

She had a Facebook page. She was sort of the right age. People said, there was sort of confusion because she had her settings in such a way that I think she had a public profile.

So you opened her account, it looked as though you were friends with her. You could see everyone. And so people were like, oh my God, I never friended this girl.

How are we friends? And they all thought it was this crazy, weird conspiracy. But anyway, this girl came out and she said, I'm not missing nor have I ever been.

I'm at home with my family. I'm fine. I actually have her quote if you want to read it in Spanish for me.

No, I'm not missing nor have I ever been.

I'm not missing nor have I ever been. I'm at home with my family. I am not desperate nor have I been.

Maybe disappeared.

Maybe dead.

I am with my family and I'm good. That's directly translated. I don't know.

Mexico has this registry for missing people, the RNPED.

No record of her there.

Crazy.

People reached out to Channel 5 and they're like, do you have the contact information for the person who took out this ad?

Yeah.

They said, oh, we don't have that information anymore.

Of course not.

The kind of pro-con on like whether or not this would be a conspiracy or not. Okay.

16:27

Selene Theories

So again, as we touched on Colleen, you're like, what's the motivation?

Yeah.

Yeah. So the motivation people theorize is to scare children, scare teens, create a like not so that they won't leave their family.

Yeah.

They're saying to like, so that they like won't be unsupervised on the street.

Don't join gangs.

Yeah.

They're like, be safe. Don't wander the streets by yourself.

Well, that's, that's interesting.

Yeah.

That they would use something like that.

Did they have AI back then?

Well, not like we have it now, which would mean they'd have to kind of really be like, cutting edge. Yeah. Uh-huh.

And I don't know, no offense, but I don't think Mexico was a cutting edge country at that time.

Yeah.

I don't know of Mexico, but you know.

Maybe we just don't know, though.

Yeah.

They keep it secret.

Also, yeah, you can never rule it out. I feel like governments have more layers. They have more money.

They have more resources than what we would think.

I also don't think the picture looks that creepy. Like, it doesn't give AI to me.

It just looks poor quality.

Yeah.

And well, you know what it looks like? Those printed pictures you could get from Chuck E. Cheese.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I know what you're talking about.

Doesn't it look like that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You've never been to Chuck E.

Cheese?

I mean, 30 years ago.

Yeah, it's pretty new. I only know because I have children.

Oh, right. Right.

I think unfortunately, unless somebody comes forward and is like, hey, that was my sister or that was my aunt or something, probably, we're not going to be able to like...

Ever proof?...

disprove that this was a conspiracy theory, like that this was all a Channel 5 deal. I think it's interesting that Channel 5 has not commented on these allegations.

And then there's also this theory, like maybe it was, it is fake, but the Channel 5 didn't know it. Like maybe somebody submitted this photo as a prank.

No, I could believe that.

And then Channel 5 just like aired it.

Yeah, because if they did it all the time, how would they know?

Yeah. But it's just weird that they haven't come out to be like, for or against. They've just kind of leaned into it on Twitter.

So some kind of points that maybe lead us to believe that this is all just internet nonsense and that Selene Delgado Lopez was a real person. So I think the first is kind of what you guys have touched on.

So you don't think that that face, does that look fake to you?

It didn't.

No, it doesn't look fake to me. But also I don't think I'm like the best person when it comes to like, is this AI or not?

I just don't think they would have good enough AI to spit that out. I don't know.

And why would it even have to be AI?

It just looks like a film photo to me. Like it looks like it came from film.

Yeah, and that's one of the one of the theories is that this was like, like there was a missing poster, someone like Xerox, it just got like Xerox multiple times. Also, this was 1990. So we don't have the quality of photos that we have now.

Yeah. And then I guess as far as like, hey, there's no records. Why are there no records for this person?

Because they were crappy at taking records.

Yeah, exactly.

And maybe there were records, they just weren't digitized. And I mean, I think the other question is like where, I was curious to know how Channel 5 got this information.

Like was this like law enforcement submitting these or was this like random people who like I need help finding my daughter and they're submitting it?

Because if that's the case, if this is just like individual submitting it, then it kind of goes back to what we said that maybe people didn't seek out help from the police because they didn't trust them.

And so maybe there are no records, but that doesn't mean that she wasn't missing and her family wasn't trying to find her.

Yeah.

Also like what if the people that are reporting are missing are just like don't have access to internet, they cannot be found, live in a very rural area?

Well, you're sort of onto something there.

What if she like came across the border, became a different person?

Changed her ID. Yeah. It was really sad.

Human trafficking is now dead.

So there is a blog that posted that they had talked. There's this group of students who like investigated cold cases and they claim that they had like spoken to the sister of No way. Angel Gato Lopez in 2006.

But we have no names or good citations for this. Like this is just a blog, right? Okay.

Also, they claim on this blog, the sister didn't want to share additional information. So, I don't even know if we can believe this story.

But if we believe it, they claim that Channel 5 is not the only program that aired Selene Delgado Lopez's disappearance, that other programs and newspapers also report on this disappearance, and that those newspaper articles and programs actually had

a better photo and a phone number to contact to. So this is the claim. But again, I'm like, we can't find, no one has found another example. Yeah, clip of this newspaper or I mean, newspapers.

Newspapers, you should be able to go find in what your microfilm that was, right?

Well, that's assuming the country kept those.

Yeah, I don't know how that works. We need a librarian to let us know.

Well, I mean, again, it goes back to like, I don't think the Mexican government's very like...

I don't think they were keeping track of this shit.

I don't think they're very forthcoming. I know for sure the law enforcement is corrupt.

Also, again, I couldn't find anything. It does make it challenging that this was sort of before the technology boom, so things aren't just like Googleable.

But I also read that her mother might have been on a show in 2010 discussing the case, but again, could not find that, nobody can source this. These are all just like rumors on this blog.

2010, you could definitely find something by 2010.

You would have definitely been able to find that.

I feel like someone on Reddit would have been like, oh my gosh, I remember seeing this lady.

They would have linked.

Yeah, on three or something. Yeah. The site alleges though, that the real, because again, they're claiming Selene Delgado Lopez is real and they validated this with her sister.

Yeah. So they claim that she was real. She came from a poor family with limited resources.

Her mother, Donna Esperanza Lopez, worked as a clothes cleaner and her father had died when she was young. And there was a report that Selene had a stalker who lived nearby, which was maybe a woman named Alondra. Didn't see that coming, right?

No. Who was a prostitute. Oh, she was allegedly.

A prostitute was stalking her?

Yeah, that's the story.

Human trafficking.

That's I think where we're heading with that.

She was allegedly the main suspect, although she disappeared the same time as Selene Delgado Lopez vanished.

Whoa, I have chills.

The sister also reported, though, that she left of her own free will. And so, I don't know, we have not a lot of details here. This is sort of rumor.

She said they didn't have a phone. So the contact number that was given was actually for like the corner store, and the shopkeeper allegedly received a call at some point, but he's dead. The phone is out of service.

The shop is no longer there. So there really is like no contact anymore for this case. So that's all the information I could find on that.

I have my theory now.

Okay.

After receiving this is all the deets.

That's all the deets on this case.

This is what I think is happening.

I think this interview is correct. I think this woman is real. I think she was human trafficked.

I think somebody on the news channel was either knew her personally or was trying to get control of the missing people through human trafficking and release this ad during children's programs during certain times, so that they could do it incognito,

so the men human trafficking these women wouldn't see the missing notices. Do you see what I'm picking up?

I like this theory.

At the time of the day, can we put out these missing notices so that we can reach a lot of viewers, like moms, watching TV with their children without getting found out by the gang or the-

I like your theory.

That's my theory.

I love this theory.

I can't help it. It's all by myself.

Say, though.

No, don't ruin it.

That she wasn't the only missing person that popped up.

But they did it all through children's episodes.

Yes, but it would be a lot of missing people.

But they could have all been trafficked.

Maybe, but a lot of them, some of them actually found. Like, people have gone through to be like, were these other people real? And I guess not all of them, but many of them they have found and were about.

I love your theory.

I like my theory.

I think it's some person working for Channel 5 being like, I'm gonna post this.

Like a vigilante. Yeah, like a vigilante shit.

Yeah, and they're like, I'm gonna save these people, and I'm gonna post it on the kids channel. Okay. That's what I think.

25:08

Joanna Lopez Mystery

Well, this case, as you cut, as I kind of went down the rabbit hole on this, it led into a similar case in the United States.

Oh, which one?

A milk box kid?

Well, not literally a milk box kid.

Same vibes.

But there was an American case of a girl in Chicago, Joanna Lopez, that is very similar. It was like an ad, I'm gonna show it to you.

It was another one that popped up after the news, and people remember that it's from their childhood, but no one has ever found this person, and there's all these questions I'll get into, and the thought is, is this someone else?

Like, did this channel also just make up this story? So not the same channel we're talking about, not even the same country, but kind of similar, similar vibes.

Okay.

Okay, so. And here's part of what makes it creepy.

Like- The American flag?

The way it transitions.

Disturbing.

Okay.

Oh, this one's creepy.

Yeah.

Is that a boy?

That's supposed to be Joanna? Okay. That's like, that's giving nothing.

Yeah.

Like, no facial features.

It looks like a scary monster.

So the-

There's literally no-

The news ends, they cut to a video of the National Anthem playing.

Right.

National Anthem games.

Abruptly ends.

Oh, no.

And this black and white photo pops up that literally just is a- I mean, describe that to the people.

Like a blurb with white spots.

It looks like-

You can tell it's a head, but no facial features.

It looks like the negative of a picture.

Yes.

In really dark lighting. Yes.

You can't really tell like gender, ethnicity.

No.

I can't even tell if she has long hair, short hair.

I mean, it looks like a man. It looks like a Middle Eastern man.

Okay.

Right?

Yeah. Or like a teenage boy.

It's definitely somebody of darker complexion just based on the exposure and the contrast. But like you can see the outline of their shoulders. I think they do have short hair, but like.

So it says missing and there's a phone number and there's a picture.

And that's all that all that was made. That is so and it just and her name is right. Just like the other person and the name Joanna Lopez.

And it just comes up and it's completely silent as this is airy.

Oh, that's so creepy.

And what year was this?

I this is in the 1980s.

OK, wait, can I just say something?

Yeah.

You don't have to keep this in there. But we know she's Hispanic.

We're assuming because it says Lopez.

Yeah.

Because aren't people with darker, pigmented skin from Cuba?

Oh, well, Lopez is Cuban.

Maybe she disappeared Cuba, and that's why we have nothing else to know about her. But this was in Chicago.

Yeah, you have just jumped kind of ahead.

I made like a huge assumption, but like...

I actually really don't have...

I was thinking like the DR Cuba, and Cuba is like a black hole for our accessibility to it. Okay.

Let me tell you what we know, and then you tell me if you still believe that.

Okay.

So between 1989 and 1991, Chicago news station WMAQ posted a missing persons poster. And again, this wasn't like a regular series. It was just like this missing poster, missing persons.

I've seen it say, it definitely aired at least two times, maybe as many as four, but definitely twice. And again, it was just kind of odd. The show ends, the national anthem plays, and then it cuts to this poster.

It's blurry, poor quality. It just has the name, the words missing, the number. No family contacts, no description, no information surrounding the disappearance.

And it's just, again, eerily silent.

So weird.

That phone number that was given led to the youth department of the Chicago Police Department, but it is no longer a functioning number. This story kind of blew up on Reddit in 2020, 2021. So that's kind of where a lot of my research came from.

Internet Sleuths found a Jane Doe on DoeNet. So DoeNet is where people just post, they post Jane Doe's to help people kind of try to match who they are.

And there was a Jane Doe found in 1994 who was found deceased in an alley naked from the waist down. And so people took her face, her photo, and like overlaid it on that other photo.

Oh my gosh.

And it appeared like it could be a match. It was the only-

This is giving me chills.

That's crazy.

Only missing person on DoeNet that seems to match up with the timeline. It would be like the right age in 1994. Whoa.

And this person, we actually, like her killer claimed that he picked her up, she was working as a prostitute. And then he killed her and then 24 hours later she was found. So in 1984 is when she died.

We don't even- So we don't even know if this was her. This is just what people are theorizing.

Yeah.

Because that Jane Doe still remains a Jane Doe.

But Internet sleuths, armchair detectives are like, wait, this could be-

Oh my God. That's crazy. That's crazy.

I believe it.

Other theory is that, again, I told you that contact number was for the youth department. So is it possible that she was like in foster care or in the system, maybe like juvenile detention or something?

And that's why we don't have any family out here, advocating for her, looking for her. And maybe that's why all they had is this one crappy photo.

Also on Reddit, people say, there was one other story that people claim they made contact with a Joanna Lopez.

And the guy on Reddit is like, I got off the phone with a Joanna Lopez from Chicago who ran away from home in 1989, but she freaked out and didn't want to talk. So was this person, did they find her and she's alive? Is this not her?

I don't know. No one ever found her. No one ever confirmed that this was her.

Yeah. People have reached out to the station. The station claims that the name and photo were submitted anonymously.

And there was like a Freedom of Information Act requests submitted to the police asking for information about Joanna Lopez. And that came back with no matches.

So again, theories are either that this video was fake, it was posted to the internet, it was posted just to have us here talking about it, creep us out.

Creep us out, yeah.

Talk about this news channel. Again, similar to the theory from the first case, are they just trying to warn people about, yeah, kids, be safe. There's a weird side haunting story because when this plays and then it cuts out and goes really fuzzy.

And so people talk about it being like, is this like a haunting situation?

Oh my God, that's scary.

But then I also read that it was possible that she ran away, someone posted this, and then maybe they just re-record over the same tape. And so it just kept re-airing on accident.

Oh.

Or these women are both real, they just happen to be from lower class backgrounds and that's why nobody, no one is looking for them and there's not a lot of information and they just have fallen through the cracks and it's really sad.

Sadly, I think it's sad.

It could be that. Especially, I mean, both of them seem to have been like, I mean, if they were both, if we believe like sort of what the story is saying is like, both of them fell into prostitution.

Yeah.

So like.

They definitely.

Well, that's typically like when people don't have the means, there are different ways that you can, there's always, everyone has a choice, yes.

Right.

But a lot of times these people who are in like lower socioeconomics, like it's good money and you get out of your situation by going with the good money, which is sad. But I'm not judging it just. Yeah, it just is what it is.

And then a lot of times prostitutes do end up with the wrong people and they do end up killed.

Gosh, I think it's sad. I don't think there, I think there's. I think that's what happened.

I think so, too.

I think they're both, I just can't believe that. Again, there are enough missing women in Chicago and missing women in Mexico that I don't see why they would have to make up a person. I think it seems much more likely that it's what you guys think.

These women were both real. They, yeah, they just didn't come from a lot of money, didn't have a lot of resources, and sadly just kind of fell through the cracks. And that's what I think happened.

So, all right, that's all I got.

Well, that's all folks.

Mm-hmm, yeah, I feel like...

And on that depressing note...

I'd like to talk more about the fact that the national anthem played and then the silence, that's creepy.

Yeah, why did they do that?

Creepiest thing to me.

That it, yeah, it just goes from this like... And it's like military people doing like the colors and you know, and then it just like cuts to this black and white photo and silence.

Like no one talking like in Mexico, no like background, I guess background music, I don't know, but just like the silence is very creepy. Yeah.

It's just giving hunger games to me.

It is.

Guys, just a reminder, don't forget to check out our Facebook and Instagram pages at 3SchemeQueens. That's the number 3 SchemeQueens, all one word. We're also on Reddit, same username.

If you want to check out our website, go to 3schemequeens.com and you can find links to our social media accounts, our Buzzsprout page, all of our episodes, additional content, and our contact page, where you can engage with us and share any updates

on the topics that we have discussed. Let us know how we're doing and what you want to hear next. There are also opportunities to financially support us, with links to buy us a cup of coffee and links to our merch store.

As always, if you choose not to financially support us, we appreciate the follows, the downloads, the listens, the likes. Kait, what should the people do?

Yeah, so what I want you to do right now is take out your phone.

Stop.

Yeah, stop. Oh, there's lots of different ways, I guess you can interpret that. So either stop what you're doing right now, collaborate and listen, or stop in the name of love.

However, which avenue you'd like to take, and pull out your phone and text three people that you're like, this is a really interesting internet theory that I think that you would really enjoy, and share it with them.

And then after that, I'd like you to go to our podcast page, scroll on down, leave us a five-star review, leave us a comment if you are on Spotify.

We'd love to read the comments, interact with us on our social media, and yeah, Maggie, what else should I do?

No, I think that sounds good. We have a couple of other interesting mysteries coming up.

All I wanna say is you guys better catch up on Stranger Things before we get to my next topic.

Kait's got one that's gonna be the end of her, hopefully it'll wrap up your Stranger Things obsession.

What the 2026 obsessions are gonna be.

I know, I can't wait.

What's coming out in 2026?

Well, there's a lot of books being made into films this year.

Yes, there's lots of books being made.

People we made on vacation.

Yeah, people we made on vacation, although that's not my favorite Emily Henry book. There's a new Game of Thrones show starting this month on HBO called Oh, another prequel, right? A Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

Yeah.

It's one completed book.

So I think it's just in their 30-minute episodes.

Love that.

Interesting. It's going to be a little bit more levity in comparison to House Heavily. The Game of Thrones shows typically are.

Anyway, that could be a new obsession. I don't know. Yeah.

We'll see.

Okay.

We'll see you guys next Tuesday.

See you next Tuesday.