Second Birthday Episode!

We’re officially two years in, and this week we're celebrating!  After the cake and toasts, we dive into updates we had to talk about: Kait's thoughts on Stranger Things, Megan's reactions to the new Puff Daddy documentary produced by 50 Cent, new developments and unanswered questions surrounding the infamous Louvre Heist, Mangione legal updates, and the ongoing search for MH370.  It’s a birthday episode with big updates, familiar mysteries, and plenty of off-the-rails conversation, because nothing says “anniversary” like revisiting conspiracies that refuse to stay buried. Thanks for two incredible years… and here’s to many more. 🥂🛸

Transcript

Hey guys, welcome to our second birthday party.

Happy birthday to us. It snowed outside for us today.

Yeah, it was actually really pretty.

It was, it's a winter wonderland. Kait, what is second anniversary?

Cotton.

Cotton? So we all got some diet coke blankets.

Yeah.

Happy birthday to us. We just had a little birthday cake. Birthday cookie.

Birthday cookie. It didn't rise very well.

It was, Megan's made a lot of yummy things.

This was not one of them?

Yeah.

Well, you know, to be fair, I was in quite a baking frenzy when I made us our birthday cake and I had used up all my butter. So I had to go online and find a butter-free cake recipe. Would not recommend.

It's funny because we were lighting the candle and she puts the cake.

The cake in front of us. The cake in front of us. And I just looked at Colleen and I was like, is that a cake or is it a cake?

Didn't I preface before you came over though, guys?

It's really a birthday cookie.

You did, but seeing it in person.

It was so funny in person. I wish I could explain.

Anyway, that about sums up two years of the podcast is really struggling to put together a appealing product.

It was so cute. It was all covered in rainbow sprinkles. I did.

I tried to make it a-

It looked like our logo.

That was my vibe.

Yeah.

I thought the decorating was really good.

Thank you.

Yeah. It was layered.

Yeah.

The point was it was a lovely little birthday party and toast to us.

Two years is crazy though.

I can't believe it. I've enjoyed it for the past two years.

I associated with us buying the Taylor Swift tickets, because I feel like it was around the same time.

Was it around the same time?

Yeah, and us thinking Megan fell down the stairs.

Yeah, that was so funny.

Oh, but thank you guys for sticking with us for our three week holiday hiatus.

Yeah.

Hope you enjoyed some of those throwback episodes.

Yeah, we really like the float throwbacks.

Yeah, we're going to get into some of them today. Y'all got a shout out also to Shelly, because speaking of cotton things.

She did make us cotton. Yeah, she.

Happy birthday, guys.

Thanks, Graham.

Graham's the best. She made us some reading pillows.

I'm so excited.

She made Kait one and it was the prototype. Then she improved upon it.

Yes, because I gave a lot of feedback. I did.

That does not surprise me.

Yeah, she asked for it. She said, you're my tester. I can't read.

And you need to tell me what needs to be done. And she knows she birthed me. She understands that I'm very honest.

And she picked beautiful fabric because mine is purple, my favorite yellow.

So thanks, Shelly. The 3Scheme Queens are going to be on a reading weekend with some other friends in a month or so. So that'll be perfect use of our reading pillow.

Yeah, we'll probably record a podcast there too.

Yeah, we'll probably have to.

Yeah.

Maybe we'll feature all the girls.

Oh, that would be fun.

But before we get into it, is it time?

For our drink check. Drink check.

Speaking of like big birthday, big anniversary, this drink is like eight months in the making.

Yeah, that Megan made.

So I made Instagram famous cherry bounce, which is allegedly George Washington's favorite drink. But I just put some cherries in a jar, Mason jar with bourbon and a little bit of sugar and let it sit for eight months.

Were they fresh cherries? They were.

I had to pit them.

Wow.

Yeah. I think you could probably do it with frozen, but I...

That's impressive.

I did fresh. Yeah.

My favorite thing about it is the color. Oh. It's like a pretty maroon, cranberry maroon.

But we're having some...

I mean, I think you could... We did kind of taste it by itself. It was pretty good, right?

It was good.

But how are we drinking it now, Kait?

So we did.

We tasted it by itself. It was sweet. It was good.

Yeah.

It was very good.

And I thought, oh, my gosh, what if we put diet coke in this? It would be like a cherry coke.

It would be like a Roy Rogers with bourbon, which is one of our faves.

Which is our favorite.

Yeah.

So exactly. So that's what we did. We put a little diet coke in it, and then we tasted it.

And I was like, you know what this needs? More bourbon. Yeah.

No.

I mean, again, it is literally cherry in bourbons. It's your cherries in bourbon. And she was like, more bourbon, please.

I was like, can you subtract the alcohol?

Colleen said, I want 5% of the cherry bounce.

Colleen said, I want 5% of the cherry bounce and 95% diet coke.

Yes.

And I said, I want the opposite.

95%.

95% bourbon.

She said, I want aftertones of diet.

Yeah. I was like, no. It's good.

It's really good.

Bourbon Boy did some with ginger ale also. That was pretty good.

It was something orange might taste good too.

You know what? We have plenty left to experiment with. So, what a good gift.

It was a great gift.

And Megan's delivery with the little fabric and little ribbon.

Thank you.

And I didn't make a face.

No, I was watching their faces.

The whole time.

You didn't make one face.

I'm just gonna wear a mask when I try things in front of Megan.

Are you gonna wear a mask if you're gonna drink it?

I'll do it like this.

I still think my favorite is when she finally tried a martini.

Oh, you go. I don't normally finish things if I really don't like.

That's true.

I finished that drink.

Yeah.

All right, good.

See?

Have you had one since?

I don't think I'd ever pay for one, but I would make one. I'd probably make one on my own.

Was it salty enough for you?

I probably would have got it.

Oh, she dumped more olive brine.

Yeah, I did more olive than vodka. Yeah, because I would also just drink straight olive juice, so.

Which I find disgusting.

Yeah. Oh, I love it. Or pickled juice.

That's interesting because you like pickles.

I do like pickles.

But olives are juice.

They're not.

I don't really like olives.

That's so interesting.

A pickle martini.

They make them.

Yeah.

I actually once had a pickle martini.

I shared it with my friend, but it was actually so much, because I like a pickle back.

Yeah.

I was like, I love a pickle martini. And it was so much, and I felt so gross after I drank it. And now sometimes when I smell a pickle, I think about that pickle martini and how much I did not enjoy.

Like sometimes too much of something is not, like too much of a good thing is not a good thing.

I would be particular with what type of pickle brine I would use. Like it would have to be like the fresh deli.

Well, this was a homemade pickles.

Yeah. Oh, and you still don't know.

I think in general, I'm just not a cocktail girl. I like wine and bourbon, and that's about it.

We had our annual Christmas party, and Kait said, I'm just going to drink white wine tonight. And then she woke up and she said, Megan, you've been hiding the secret from me.

I can really hold now.

Yeah. She was like, you can drink white wine and wake up and not be like hung over. Yeah.

White wine's lovely.

One glass of red and my head is killing me, and I'm in GI distress.

Yes.

No, I can't stand the red wine.

I can't even swallow it.

Well, I do like red wine, but now I'm committing to the white wine for Wine, Women and Dead.

Oh my God.

Yeah. It's the secret.

I splurged on a $20 bottle of wine on Friday. It was so yummy.

Yeah. But you accidentally got drunk.

I did accidentally get drunk.

Honestly, some of my favorite times is to open a bottle of wine. The house is completely silent.

It's literally all I did.

At night.

My problem was I was watching sad things. Then I started to feel sad. Then I also had drank a bottle of wine.

Because it's our birthday, we're going to do something a little different.

We are going to just talk about what we want to talk about. Update you on some-

We're doing a yappy hour.

Yeah. Update you on some of the conspiracy theories that we've covered. We definitely have been, well, Kait, most of all, but back on the Stranger Things train.

Actually, I don't know if Colleen has been on the Stranger Things.

No, because I'm waiting for it all to come out, but you can spoil.

We won't talk too much about Five, but Kait and I did watch-

I've been reading the text messages.

Yeah.

Kait and I did watch the first four episodes of Season 5.

Yeah.

Loved it, and it put her into a re-watch. I re-watched a couple of episodes of One with you, and she kept going, but on the re-watch, certainly a lot of thoughts. I hope that you guys all listen to our Montauk super episode.

Yeah, it was a good one.

It was good.

Learning about it was interesting.

And we kind of went back and touched.

We had a lot of fun with it.

Yeah, and we touched kind of then on all of the season one.

At that point, we were covering season one through four of...

Also, if you do really listen to our Montauk episode and then watch Stranger Things, it gives you a lot more insight, I feel like, to what could be going on.

Well, even going back to season one, and we were seeing Eleven, because I think I talked about how Eleven's mom was part of MK Ultra. And then they took right there, they reference it in season one.

In season one.

What year did season one come out?

It's been like 10 years, right?

Yes, it has been 10 years.

It came out in 2016. Summer 2016, and all I could think about was, oh my gosh, I must have been on Maternity.

Oh my god, I have grown so much. That's why watching season one again, I'm like, whoa, different perspectives.

It's such a different perspective watching season one. I remember watching season one, and it was like kind of like a monoculture event that happened.

Well, it was the first big Netflix show, I felt like.

Yes, I agree. And Netflix kind of was the only streaming platform back then. So it was like, you know, yeah, Netflix is it.

Orange is the New Black.

Yes, Orange is the Blue.

Yeah, yeah. And Game of Thrones was out.

Oh, I forgot about that, yeah.

That's HBO, though.

Yeah, but I don't even think it was streaming. I don't think HBO had a streaming platform.

No, it was only on TV if you had the pay.

I do remember I used to go over to Mermaid Girl and Birdman's House to watch on HBO, like at night.

We would, every couple months, we'd change, not months, maybe every other year, we'd change cable companies to get a discount. And every time we'd change cable companies, we'd get the movie channels for like three months.

So I'd be like, when are we going to change services that I could want to HBO?

Yeah.

But yeah, on the Stranger Things rewatch. So I, Megan said to me the other day, Kait, you know what? You do have a little bit of a addictive personality.

And I do have an addictive personality.

Well, I always kind of hassled because I said, I don't think, it sounds so bad because like in her life, she has been very successful in fall, but like, Mike, you don't have a lot of follow through.

Like I always tell them these are big idea girls, but they lose interest in things very quickly. They have like fleeting hobbies and that kind of thing.

The HG and us.

Yeah, no, no, I understand where it comes from. But then I was thinking, and I think I have a very, I don't want to say addictive personality, but I do definitely get very obsessive with things. Like I go well in on something and I, yeah.

And I just am like, I guess you do do that, Kait.

You do have your handful of things that you're like really, like, she's like, don't talk to me, I can't read a book, I can't watch any TV, I can't do anything until I've rewatched all of Stranger Things.

And it's like all hours of the day, she's texting the group chat about like her random grain of thought. Yeah, her random thoughts about Stranger Things.

It's like the only media I consume at the moment. Like, so I really enjoy, like, and it's been since I was a child.

Yeah.

Like I would get really deep into something and I would be really like, to Harry Potter. I was so deep into Harry Potter. It was the only type of like, but Megan, yeah, Megan said the other day, she was like, you do do that.

And I was like, yes, but typically, it's like very nerdy stuff. Like Harry Potter.

You want a glass?

Star Wars, Game of Thrones. Like it's straight up nerd culture. Well, Stranger Things.

So right now I'm in my Stranger Things rewatch. So I watched episode, or season five. It was only four episodes, you know, they dropped them on Thanksgiving.

And I was like, I can't do anything else now.

This is it.

So I was like, I have to rewatch the seasons again. So I've been listening to podcasts about Stranger Things. I have been rewatching it.

It's like every part of the media that I'm consuming right now is Stranger Things. Like it is, it's definitely, it's crazy.

See, I like get obsessive over things, but only at like the surface. But I'll fixate on the surface for a while. Like I'll watch the same show for a while.

Well, they'll never dig deeper.

I think the deep big, that's what I get. I get upset and then I'm like, and then I'm in it. But I think this was season one, we'd be saying nerd alert.

Every time Kait's like, well, you know on Lord of the Rings.

You know obsess over something, you know every detail. Like, oh no, no, that didn't happen yet in that chapter. That's not until chapter 24.

When they say this, da, da, da, da, da. And I'm like, I don't think I've ever focused, even when I'm my most obsessed with something, I don't focus on the details. I also very rarely finish a show.

Yeah, didn't you do a reread of The Summer I Turn Pretty?

Yeah.

Same thing happened with The Summer I Turn Pretty. You, not fixated, but you, duh.

She woke up at 4 a.m. every episode day. And then she'd be like mad that she couldn't talk about it because we were sleeping.

Like we were normal, we were like, after work, I'm gonna watch it. Well, I got up at 4 a.m. to watch it.

And I, yeah, so I would get up at 4 a.m.

The thing, the reason why I got up at 4 a.m. is because I knew that the group chat would be popping off about TSITP. And if I didn't know what they were talking about, that would have given me so much FOMO.

It would have been like, oh, mad, yeah.

That like, I couldn't do it.

So that's why I got up at 4 a.m. Especially if I was working. If I wasn't working, it wasn't at 4 a.m.

but it was definitely in the morning. And I would try and watch it before my kids got up because once my kids got up, I would not be able to focus on it.

You needed to see the details.

Yes.

Well, then you guys, what do you call that text you always send?

The Invisible Ink.

Yeah, she loves to send to the big group chat, the Invisible Ink. Like once you watch TSITP, please look at my thoughts.

Yeah.

I would, it was fun because we would all have like our notes we would keep while we watched.

For a while in the group chat, everybody was sending Invisible Ink because you're all talking about this book, Quicksilver.

Brimstone, the sequel.

Yeah. I haven't read it yet because I couldn't get through the first one, but I would clear every third text message, like expose the words on the Invisible Ink, and then it would just be like, he was so silly for that.

I'm like, that didn't need to be invisible. Half of the things I was revealing were-

Also, that's so Colleen because Colleen likes to flip to the end of the book and read the last page.

I used to do that all the time.

And then she'll read the book and she'll be like, I knew the whole time how it was going to end. I'm like, pretty doubts me.

I'm good at guessing.

You know, we like-

I do believe you're good at guessing.

Yeah.

Okay. Well, also if you make 5,000- Okay, watching a TV, a movie with Kait or with Colleen, I'm going to hit the target on one of them.

As Megan says, a broken clock is right twice.

Yeah.

But also if you spoil it for me, then I'll pay attention because I'm looking forward to the spoil.

Like I'm like, oh, when is this going to happen? Well, it's also anxiety driven. I need to know what's going to happen.

Like for an example, they say that's very ADHD, that like constantly have to get. As a child, I couldn't watch Nemo sitting through it in one sitting because it was too suspenseful because I didn't know what was going to happen.

It took me like three tries to watch all of Nemo. Like I needed spoiled.

Did they find Nemo?

Yeah. I'm like, how are they finding Nemo? Where is Nemo?

Like, yeah, my dad did say watching a movie with me for the first time was always the worst because I would be like, oh my gosh, dad, dad, is he going to be okay?

Dad, is he going to die?

Yeah, I could handle it.

What's going to happen?

I could handle it.

My dad was like, you just have to watch the movie. And now it's like the same thing with Patch.

Yeah.

He is the same way. He's like, wait, wait. Yeah.

But we digress.

Yeah, we do.

We wanted to hear about Kate's thoughts on her on her rewatch.

Oh, yeah. Can I share? I've only watched probably the first four or five episodes.

Yeah, you've rewatched the whole show already.

No, I've only watched season three.

Oh, OK.

Yeah. And we won't spoil again for season five. But I mean, I think the big takeaway we agree on is Steve Harrington was a good guy from the beginning.

Green flag.

From the beginning.

I remember. But the thing is, I remember watching it 10 years ago and thinking he was such a douche. And then you rewatching it from a different, I don't even think knowing that he has a redemption arc.

He wasn't bad to begin with.

He wasn't bad.

He wasn't a bad boyfriend.

Jonathan was taking photos of her from the woods, through the window, taking her shirt off. And then we're supposed to be mad that Steve broke his camera.

Right.

But then he bought him a new camera.

But then they replaced the camera.

Right.

He was a green flag.

Yeah. So that's my big take. My big takeaway is that Steve Harrington was a great guy from the beginning.

Well, so there is a scene in episode one that we did not get on our rewatch, but collectively.

But there is a scene where Steve is with his friends and Nancy looks up and she sees like Nancy Wheeler is a slut on the movie theater on Main Street.

Like somebody graffitied it and then she runs around the corner and Steve is there with like all his friends and the friends are like graffitying it because Steve saw Jonathan and Nancy in Nancy's bedroom after they find the monster.

They can take.

So that's a bad look.

That is bad. I don't remember. I do not remember that.

The other thing is, is that yeah, is that then, you know, Nancy comes over and she's like, how could you?

And Steve's like, what are you talking about? I didn't do that. So then Jonathan and Steve get into a fight and they like, Jonathan like kicks Steve's ass.

Oh my God.

And then Steve, they like, the cops come, Steve runs away and then he's like in a 7-Eleven parking lot with his friends, like holding ice on his face.

And he starts, this is, that was like, I think that starts the Steve Redemption arc because he's like, you guys are absolutely, like to his friends.

Sounds like he just has bad friends.

Right, so he's like, he like dumps his friends and then he goes back to the movie theater and he helps the owner like wipe it off.

He's such a good guy.

Okay, so that's not a good look, but that's still not him being a shitty guy.

No, because he thought his girlfriend was cheating on him because she was heading.

With a creeper who had been taking photographs of them together.

Right, right. So in season 2, there's also this really heartbreaking scene where they go to, first of all, who cares about Barb? Does anyone care about Barb here?

But so then in season 2, there's all this trauma that Nancy's been carrying, rightfully so. She has this whole breakdown, and Steve is like, what's the matter? And she's like, I can't keep doing this, I can't keep lying to people.

And he's like, you know that if we tell the truth, the Hawkins Lab people, the government is going to come after us, we've all signed NDAs, we can't talk about this.

He goes, I'm so sorry, let's just be teenagers, let's go to a party, let's just go have fun. And so she's mad that he says this, and then they go to a party, and she gets really wasted. He's like, come on, we gotta go home, you're too drunk.

And she's like, isn't this what you wanted? And he's like, no, this isn't what I wanted, what are you talking about? And she's like, you're bullshit.

And he's like, what are you talking about? And she goes, you're bullshit. And he's like, what, you're saying you don't love me?

And the look on his face...

Cause he really did like her. He does, he still loves her.

He still loves her. And the look on his face and the absolute, like, devastation that he has, he's like, you know what, Nancy, I'm just gonna let you cool down. And he like leaves the party and has Jonathan like take her home.

I remember, like, and that's when I texted the group and I was like, I'm anti-Nancy right now.

Yeah.

And I'm so, I've never been more pro Steve.

Yeah, anyway, and Jonathan, like, have they even been happy for seasons now?

Anyway, so I'm like, is it time to start a new relationship when your brother's missing and your best friend died?

They have shared trauma. That's the whole reason why they're together. But is that...

Enough.

Are you healthy enough to be in our relationship right now?

My other thought is, I know they're young, 11, or how old are they are?

How old are the kids? Yeah.

Oh, they're in middle school. When you meet them, they're in middle school.

I know they're young, they're in middle school, so you can't really say this, but it feels very predatory the way... I mean, like, even in season five, this is a bit of a...

Well, it's not a spoiler, but even in season five, we're like, why has 11 still not learned to speak?

Like, I don't know what I'm saying.

Okay? But you go back to... She, like, isn't even speaking in season one.

She says, Mike, all about her, and then, I don't know, it feels like this person is naive and has never lived a life and is a child, and you're like...

I like this girl.

I don't know, it feels very predatory the way he, like, pursues her, even though they're both children, but it's like, but she's really a child.

Like, she's very mentally ill. It feels like he's almost, like, taking advantage of the fact that she's ill. Ill, yeah, exactly.

I had a thought that, like, at the end of season one, Elle gets, like, sucked back in to the Upside Down. She, like, sends the monster back into the Upside Down. She gets sucked back in, and then she, like, makes her way out of the Upside Down.

And there was a question that I had. She comes out, she opens a gate, comes out into the school, and then she just leaves the gate wide open. And I remember just when she's walking away, thinking, like, okay, who's gonna close that gate?

What happens to that gate? Is it a plot hole? Yeah, because it's, like, closed later.

And then they act all surprised that there's, like, a gate that's been, like, opening bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and down beneath. Right. I'm confused.

And then the other thing was that she's living in the woods in the middle of winter in Indiana, which is the Midwest, and it's cold. And so she definitely would have died of hypothermia at that point, right?

So what I'm hearing, Kait, is that you should have helped the Duffer Brothers with this writing here.

Sounds like they need better writing.

Real plot holes.

If she would have stepped through the gate, closed the gate and then kept going, I would have been more apt to believing her.

But yeah, and the other thing is that like I remember, we were sitting around at Megan's and Colleen started talking about how hot Hopper is.

I still think, I mean, it's actually harder now because he's working so much about his personal life, but I would still say Hopper could get it.

It's Hopper, the character specifically.

Yeah.

It is not the dirty cop.

Yeah. Oh my God. He's gone into it.

He's slinging his shirt around.

He's risking everything for this girl.

He's a father figure.

These kids, yeah.

He's sweet, but tough.

He has trauma.

I don't know. I watched him in Violent Night, which is a Christmas movie, and he plays burned out Santa Claus, but he's got his roots. He goes back to like, he was a viking.

Okay.

And he comes in and he, there's like a family being held hostage, and he has to save them.

Yeah. And he gets very, very violent, but he's got like a man bun, and he's like a, and there's like flashbacks to his viking days. And I have to say, was not unattractive.

No.

And I kind of liked him as the Russian guy in Thunderbolts.

In Black Widow.

It always goes back to Marvel.

What's his name?

David something. Yeah, David Harbor.

But I don't think like, I just, it's something about the way he is, like there's a picture in my head of him, like opening the door in season two, they're stuck in Hawkins Lab, the Demi-Dogs are all around, and then he's like trying to get Will out.

They had to sedate Will, cause Will's the spy. Will is this tiny little child slung over his shoulder. He's such a big man.

He's huge.

And he's got a rifle leading the charge with like, the rifle with like, pointing it with the light on the end.

And that moment is imprinted in my head, and I just thought, okay, in that moment, okay. I understand.

I get it.

I get it.

I also think he's got a, That's what I mean.

He has BDE. He's got some Big Nick energy.

Yeah. Big Nick.

He's got a real Big Nick energy, okay. I honestly think it is a vibe, and it is not him specifically.

No, because again, what we know about him in real life is, He thinks he has Big Nick. Cringe.

Yeah. Honestly, I don't even want to know anything about his personal life. There's also like-

You got to listen to the album.

I don't really want to listen to the album.

I do like Lily Allen, but I don't really want to listen to the album. Because I don't want to know.

He's already watching Stranger Things and thinking about-

Wait till Stranger Things is over.

Because what he cheated with a costume designer?

Yeah, but like multiple times with multiple women.

I know it's deeper than just a regular chance. Yeah.

They're both messy, is what I'll say, but he is gross, messy. Yeah.

We don't want to know that. We just want to be like, look at this hot bearded old man who's saving all these children.

Once you listen to the album, he starts to become creepy.

Yeah.

Exactly. That's why I don't want to know.

Moving on to our next topic, because we have a couple topics.

Diddy.

Diddy. I watched the Diddy documentary, so that you guys don't have to. I will say kudos to us.

Kudos to you too.

I was only in one Diddy episode.

We'll actually been in two now because last week, we aired a super episode.

Oh my gosh.

Where we took the highlights from the four episodes we did on Diddy and the one on Tupac and tried to kind of mash it into one super episode if anyone is curious.

But I don't think there were any big reveals in the documentary that we didn't know about. But it was interesting because he had a lot of video footage. So I guess Puff Daddy had hired videographers to follow him prior to his arrest.

And then there's kind of mixed information online about like whether or not he didn't pay the bill or what happened, but apparently when he got arrested, the videographers were able to keep this footage and 50 Cent bought it from them.

So there's videos of him leading up to his arrest where he's having conversations with his lawyers about his PR plan and that kind of thing. Oh my God. You're just like, 50 Cent, how did you get this?

50 Cent is, he is-

Oh, I love things that's like-

Menace, that's what it is.

Other things that's like, my goal is to be as petty as 50 Cent.

Yeah.

Let's just laugh about it.

I guess a couple of interesting things I did see is that there were a lot of people giving their accounts. I mean, I had interviewed a lot of the people that have made allegations.

I think there is a lot of outcry evidence, which we had talked about in the previous episode that SVU tells us, that's pretty heavy proof. If it's one thing to say in 2025, like, oh yeah, 10 years ago, I was assaulted.

But if you have someone who, it's like, they came and told me that that same day they had been assaulted, that carries much more weight, and they have evidence of that.

One victim told her mom about it, and then the mom actually wrote a letter to Diddy's mom and was like, I want you to know what kind of son you have. List is what he did.

Also though, he wrote it to Diddy's mom and dad, and I'm like, well, Diddy didn't have a dad, so she obviously didn't know that. I mean, he did, his dad was dead. Probably didn't know, wasn't that familiar, I guess.

But I'm like, the point is that this is not someone in 2025, it was like, let me make a buck, like this goes back.

I think it was kind of, there's a lot of videos of like his, a lot of people were his former inner circle, but some of that footage from before he went to jail, it is kind of sick to also see like how these people around him were all yes-met, like

he's like, oh my God, can you believe there's another complaint against me? And they're like, yeah, what a bunch of jerks, everyone's just like out to get money. And I'm like, no one was telling him, like you're out of control.

Oh yeah, because he's a narcissist. So of course he's gonna believe.

He's surrounding himself like yes-men.

Yes, who can shut up.

And then one of his former friends from childhood did say, this was kind of a new reveal that I didn't know about, that he had seen Diddy, well, after they had that celebrity basketball game where there was a stampede and people died, that his mom

was like, maybe this is not the industry for you. And that he witnessed Diddy hit his mom and say like, tell her to shut up. So, we know he had, even before he was famous, we know he had an abusive history.

They stressed more about the gang affiliation. We talked a lot about East Coast, West Coast, but they talked more about the gang affiliations than I think we did. We kind of touched on that.

And I think a lot more too, you just see a lot of patterns, like patterns in his behavior. He had a history of like trying to steal women from powerful men.

So like all the women he dated were dating someone else in his circle that was bigger than him.

And I think that really stressed how he really doesn't have any musical talent, which now every time I watch him, I just am like, you're really not that good. You had that one catchy hit that you stole.

Right, every step.

Which was really Sting is the catchy guy, right?

I don't even know if I could name a song.

That was interesting. They talked a lot about he really stole money from everyone, which I think we touched on, but they kind of dove deep into that.

He, and I guess there's just some like awkward footage that again, there's so much of him talking about like his PR plan and how he's gonna portray himself, but then it'll show like he went into like the Bronx and was like, you know, hanging at the

bars and hugging people and he gets in the car and he's like, God, everyone was touching me. I have to like take a shower and wash my hands. I feel so disgusting. He just like kept going on and on and on.

It's just like a real juxtaposition of this guy who's out there like one of the people and then being like, I'm so gross. I had to hug, it's so gross, I had to hug them. And he like compares himself to God a lot.

Like he just, yeah, not a good picture.

I would say the most interesting, I was confused as far as I think we talked about this in the episode that when he was sitting there just waiting to be arrested, when they did arrest him, he came in and he had like GHB and Benzos and like bottles of

Yeah, why wouldn't you clean it up?

Just clean it up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Flush it down the toilet or something.

It was very, it's very weird, but I guess maybe again, he just kept thinking he was bigger than, I don't know.

He definitely thought.

Delusions of grandeur.

Like nothing's going to touch me. There was no Justin Bieber reference, no White Party references.

No White Party references?

No.

Any Usher references?

I don't think so. I don't recall any Usher references, but I would say the most interesting thing to me was that they interviewed two of the jurors.

Oh.

And so one of the jurors was this like older man, and he just kind of grossed me out, because he was like, I mean, I just understand, like, if he was beating Cassie, then why did Cassie stay with him?

So like, obviously he couldn't have been guilty because Cassie stayed with him.

Oh, so he was picked for a reason.

So I thought, yeah. But, and then the more disgusting one was that...

I can't believe he interviewed. Yeah.

That's not a good look for you, sir.

Oh my God.

And then...

Was his face like grayed out or whatever? Oh my God.

And then there was a female.

And she, when you're asking how he got away with it, Colleen, like just becomes very clear when you see this, because they talk about how his PR people were like in the courtroom and they were like giving handouts, like talking points to like the

Yeah.

So, very one-sided and that they were like, you know, in the cafeteria, like schmoozing and they were like, this probably is really not acceptable.

And the jurors were not sequestered, right? So, yeah, so they're going home and they have asked both here to think they were ordered to stay off social media, but they were not sequestered.

But this girl they interviewed is like, well, no, I wouldn't. She's like, I was a fan of music of the time, but I wouldn't say I was a fan of his. But then once they interview him, she just looks like such a fan girl.

She just seems like really obsessed with him. And you're like, okay, I get why.

He got picked. Yeah.

And they're asking her like, well, apparently he kept looking and smirking at you guys and the jurors.

She's like, yeah, I mean, sometimes someone would get on the stand and say something silly and he would look at us and he'd smile and I'd smile back like, yeah, that was weird. I'm like, yeah, this is inappropriate.

Can't do that.

Yeah, that is so inappropriate.

Yeah, so I think that was the most interesting part. The whole time, yeah, we've been like-

Are we going to file for a mistrial?

But yeah, it said at the end, again, as we all know, he was acquitted of most of the charges except two counts of transportation across state lines for prostitution, serving 50 months in jail, including time served.

They said of the hundreds of lawsuits against him, he has 77 still pending. That's my ditty update. So yeah, if you just want to know what's going on, I mean, you can listen to our super episode.

Yeah.

It just makes me think, it just gives me like no faith. Our justice system is like broken trash, but this is like zero faith in the justice system. I don't understand how he got off.

How did those jurors get?

I know.

Also, I'm like, and you weren't embarrassed to be on this show and be just like...

Was it just a crap defense team?

I mean, he's talking about, my lawyer went on CNN, he's like, but like that's not where our potential jurors are.

Our potential jurors are on social media. We need to get some PR going on social media. And then he talks about, I think we had covered in an episode, how like we has a history of juror tampering, right?

And then remember he fought, or one of his lawyers like stepped down. So we wondered if he was like asking him to do illegal things. Any other diddy thoughts?

No, just that the justice system is broken.

They had to have been paid off at some point, right? I just don't understand. How did this happen?

I don't get it. There was enough evidence to put that man away for life.

Well, but then I kept thinking there's got, I mean, is he going to get, they're probably afraid now to charge him with more, but is he going to get charged? I don't know. Are they going to try again?

They found weapons with filed-off numbers in his home, so how was he not found guilty of weapons?

Right.

I don't know.

That's what I mean. There is so much that he should have been put away for.

Other exciting things, we had a little Louvre update.

Oh yeah, they arrested a fourth one.

They did arrest a fourth one, the fourth and final member of that mass gang. It was a 39-year-old who was born in the same Paris suburb. He has six previous convictions, including pimping and receiving stolen goods.

It's pimping. We still have those four people, and then the girlfriend, the baby mama, who was considered an accessory, she's out pending trial, but that's it.

Again, we don't know if there was some guy above them orchestrating this or what, but the four people that actually were present.

We haven't found all the jewels.

We've not found any of the jewels.

I bet they were just melted down.

We think it was a main collector.

One theory is had they melted down and sold it, but I was like also the other theory is that was it a collector? We talked about how some previous hearts been stolen.

Again, Louvre, not a good PR move for Louvre because we talked a lot about how they had these security issues that they had to go about and they were spending more money on buying art than taking care of the issues.

My friend Kate from New England went to the Louvre the week after. Well, it wasn't even like nothing was shut down. It was operating as normal.

Well, they've since increased the price on people who are not in the EU.

Well, how's that going to change the security?

I don't know.

We got to pay more now if we go to these guys.

Well, these guys didn't even pay.

That's annoying. Are they European?

They were French.

They're all French.

Yeah, they're all French.

So how does that help?

Yeah.

I guess they just were like, we need more money for all of these upgrades and the Americans can pay it. I don't know.

Y'all should have been planning ahead.

In the midst of all this drama, the Egyptian Antiquities Department at the Louvre had some flooding.

Oh my God.

And 300 to 400 works have been damaged. The count is ongoing.

Dang.

They said the volumes were those consulted by Egyptologists, but not precious books.

Okay. Okay. Interesting.

They knew there was a problem for several years.

Boring.

Yeah.

Repairs were scheduled for September. This actually happened a month ago, but they were too embarrassed to tell everyone, so it just came out.

We've been robbed, and we weren't built correctly.

Did you know? This goes back to, we were talking about, Kait, can you spell the luv?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. L-O-U-V-R-E.

That's right.

We were talking about it because that was the password for their security at the point.

Isn't that insane?

So when I spelled it, Colleen goes, wait, there's an R in there? So we had this whole discussion, which I just wanted you to know that Babel released their list of 2025's most mispronounced words. And they said, luv is on that list.

How are people pronouncing it?

Well, the luv is not right.

It's supposed to be like, luv-ra.

Luv-ra.

Like, there's a very soft ra at the end. Luv-ra. Luv-ra.

I need to hear it.

I just thought the R was silent.

Luv-ra.

Oh, that's probably it.

That's probably it. Yeah. Luv-ra.

Yeah.

Luv-ra.

Luv-ra.

Some of my favorite artsy movies are in French, and I just could watch people speak French.

Oh, I used to love Amelie.

Oh, yeah.

Do you guys want to know what the other most mispronounced words are?

Yeah.

Yeah, go ahead.

Mamdani.

Mamdani.

Acetaminophen.

Wait, isn't it Mamdani?

Okay. I don't know.

Yeah.

Mamdani.

Acetaminophen?

Acetaminophen. Munjaro and Alex Murdoch.

Oh. Those are random.

I believe Alex Murdoch.

Yeah.

I know. I think I would have thought ibuprofen or acetaminophen.

Well, now I want to know how people say acetaminophen.

Weird. I've definitely heard it said weird. And also people don't know it's Tylenol.

Do you know about the Tylenol murders? The Tylenol? Yeah, we should do that.

I have another update.

On what?

Mh370.

Oh, I forgot.

Oh, my favorite.

My favorite podcast.

That was one of our best.

Yeah. So Mh370, the search is resuming on December 30th.

I'm really excited about that.

Earlier this year, the firm restarted their search. They have a 15,000 square kilometer, which is 5,800 square miles in the Indian Ocean that they are searching.

The search had to be halted in April due to bad weather, but Ocean Infinity is going to start again December 30th.

That's a private company?

Yep. They are going to get paid $70 million if they find it. It's a pay-for-find.

Is that what we called it? Pay-for-find. So they won't get paid anything if they don't find it.

And they're going to search intermittently from December 30th for a total of 55 days.

I'm excited.

Fingers crossed there.

You know that show where they're looking for treasure on some island in South Carolina? It's on, it's like, I don't know, like sixth season, and they found like a coin.

Is this a reality show?

Yeah, it's like on the Discover Channel.

Okay, no.

And it's like the way I would watch seasons of Mh370 searching the way these fans watch these old men look for treasure, or like the Bigfoot Hunters show. Yeah. Like, let's get an Mh370.

I always want to say 360 though.

Oh, the Monster Men? Yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that show.

No, Bigfoot Hunters was a whole show.

Yeah. Mountain Monsters.

Mountain Monsters.

I love that show. So you just want a whole series that's just people looking for it. I mean, 370.

Yeah.

They could definitely do that.

Okay.

They probably do, but no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, hopefully they find it and that would be like the climax of the series. That would be so annoying because it would be like, nothing's here, nothing's here.

This whole stupid treasure.

It would always be like, that's suspenseful music. Guys, come over here, come see what we're doing.

I think we found something. No, just this season, just a Coke can.

This season, we will be hunting for treasure. And it's like, so excited, so excited. And then it's like, this could be a button from Maybe Pants that they maybe wore or it's a rock.

And like that's the whole season was building up for that.

The other thing that's happening in December is Mangione is in court right now. So, Kait, you covered Mangione. Mangione, right?

Yes, this or whatever it's called.

The Miranda rights.

Yes, in September of 2025, terrorism charges were dismissed.

So they dropped, because again, there's going to be two trials. There's going to be a New York State trial and there's going to be federal trials.

So the New York State charges, they dropped first degree murder in furtherance of terrorism and second degree murder as a crime of terrorism. They said this is, you have not proven this to be a terrorist. But I'm still confused as to why.

So the most severe charge she's facing is a second degree murder charge. Second degree murder is when there is no premeditation. So I don't understand why he's not being charged with first degree murder at a minimum.

No, because it seems like he knew exactly where that guy was.

We don't know all the deets because they're only going to go for what they know that they'll get, right?

Six weeks before this, he wrote in his journal his plan to go to the investors' meeting and kill a CEO.

Maybe because he didn't specify which one.

I don't know.

I'm like, that sounds like premeditation to me.

It sounds like premeditation to me, but I do think Colleen is on to something. Because they're trying not to get beat.

But you can charge someone with first and second degree. So if the jury's like, we didn't buy the first degree, but we got second.

But then it gets confusing on the juror bill, right? This was the same problem with-

Your girl.

Yeah, what the heck is this?

Karen.

Karen's too confusing for the jury, so they want to keep it simple.

Okay. Honestly-

That's what I mean.

I feel like- Just a girl.

He's gonna have a really good team of lawyers because he comes from money.

And he's got public support.

They're trying to play this-

Well, yeah, people are. I hate the public support. I have so much hate for the public support.

However, I do think that Colleen's right. They're trying to- They want to get him on something, and they're trying to make it so that his lawyers, who are probably really good lawyers, can not find a loophole.

How much time do you get for that?

Well, I'm so happy you asked.

So the New York State charges-

Can I guess first? I'm gonna guess 10 years.

Okay. New York State charges. He faces nine charges, including second degree murder and various weapons possession counts.

If he gets second degree murder, he faces 15 years to life in prison. They do not have death penalty in New York, but you know where they do.

Pennsylvania.

Oh, he's gonna also face charges in Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, he's facing forgery and giving false ID to an officer. And then his federal charges-

He wouldn't get death penalty for that.

No, but his federal charges are, he faces several charges related to the murder, and they are seeking death penalty again, which is not possible under these state charges.

So lots of charges ahead, and they're going to proceed in parallel to state and federal cases, which his defense lawyers are like, that's not fair. So they're trying to fight that, but that's the plan right now.

Oh, like Karen.

Yes, but hers were like civil.

Yeah.

You can sit on death row for so long, though.

I know, and I told you when I listened to-

It's also so expensive.

I told you I listened to that podcast, Ear Hustle. I used to listen to Ear Hustle, and they said, at least in California, that no one actually gets put to death.

So really, death row is the best place to live because you get your own room, your own cell, they get better food. They're like, that's the place to be because you're not-

Visitors, you probably aren't allowed.

I'm sure you get visitors because you still have your rights in prison, right?

I reiterate that if I was alone like that, though, I would not do well. I'd want a roommate.

Yeah, but would you want a roommate that you think might like, fault you at night?

I think he's probably more popular.

Yes. Most death row inmates are allowed visitors from family, clergy and lawyers.

The behavior, you get a visit from your mom.

So what's happening now in court is that his lawyers, like Colleen mentioned, are trying to argue that he made statements before his Miranda rights were read that they want to not be permissible. Like, you know, in court.

And then they are arguing that his backpack was searched without a warrant. And so they don't want the evidence, that evidence included, and that would be devastating. Right.

Did we have a results from that yet?

No.

But let me tell you what's been going on here. December. So what we've learned so far from the from what's happening is that December 9th, customers at McDonald's told an employee that they thought they recognized the shooter.

So she called 911. We heard the 911 call. Right.

She said he's got a mask on, but his eyebrows look like the photos. Police approached him and said, there have been reports of you loitering, and you're making people uncomfortable. They said, what's your name?

He said, Mark. Then they said, let's see an ID. He gave him a New Jersey license with a fake name, Mark Rosario, which is what we know is the name that was used in the hostel when you checked in.

Altuna Patrolman, you will like this, Kait. Altuna Patrolman Joseph Detweiler said, he's like, I looked at this guy and he looked suspicious because he was wearing a mask. And in our town, we don't wear masks because we have antibodies.

Stop.

That is so funny.

He said when he lowered his mask.

This is Pennsylvania?

Yeah, Altuna, Pennsylvania. Oh my God. When he lowered his mask, they said we knew it was him immediately.

We stayed calm, which is part of, I guess the issue that they were, they knew who he was to begin with. Yeah. One of the officers asked him what brought him to Pennsylvania from New Jersey, and he said he didn't want to talk to him.

He later said, I'm just here trying to use the Wi-Fi. They asked him things like, have you been to New York recently? What brings you to Pennsylvania from New Jersey?

But nothing really contributory. Then after about 15 minutes, he was told if he didn't provide his real name, he'd be arrested. He gave his real names.

At that point, they read him as Rice, handcuffed him, and arrest him on the forgery charge, the false ID charge. His lawyer's like, well, anything he said before then shouldn't be. But really all he said is like, what's your name?

And the guy didn't, he was like, I don't want to talk to you. So I don't know how much, if that didn't get admitted, I'm not sure how much that would really change. I think the more devastating issue would be this backpack search.

So they searched his backpack at the McDonald's because an officer alleged that he was concerned there could have been an explosive device. They recognize this guy, knew he was probably the shooter. So it's like, this is not a petty criminal, right?

So they did not get a warrant before searching it. Lease Camp shows them asking what's in the bag, like show them asking Mangione what's in the bag. And he says, I'm not talking to you.

There was a discussion amongst officers about if they needed a warrant. And so like two people said, this is a huge case. Maybe we should get a warrant.

Yeah.

And then another said, but we don't need one.

And according to the DA, this was a legal search. She said, any clothing worn by the person or bags or packages that may be in possession of at the time in place of arrest, they are permitted to search.

Oh, okay.

So an officer did like a preliminary search, found a knife, a passport, a loaf of bread, a sandwich, and a loaded magazine wrapped in wet underwear. And it keeps talking about the wet underwear. And I'm like, why was the underwear wet?

Maybe he just washed it in the sink in his like hostel or hotel or wherever he slept.

That's weird.

Why was it wet? I don't know. And so then another cop showed up.

He goes, yeah, I understand this is appropriate, but like at this point, we probably need a search warrant.

Yeah.

And an officer says, but it's a search incident to arrest which is the term that authorizes Pennsylvania police officers to search individuals who are being taken into custody.

An officer is heard suggesting that the bag be brought to the police station to check for bombs. And this other police officer said, I don't want to pull a Moser.

Moser was apparently a different police officer in Altoona, Pennsylvania, who did bring a bomb to the police station.

My gosh.

So I'm kind of like, I get why they'd be like, let's make sure we're not taking an explosive device to the police station.

Yeah.

Let's not pull a Megan.

That would be really embarrassing.

It would be in the rookie gob, we brought a bomb.

No.

So they took the bag to the police station. There they did a more thorough search, which revealed a nine millimeter Glock style ghost gun, which is like a 3D printed gun with a silencer. There was computer equipment in the bag with RF protection.

There were zip ties, a USB necklace, and a Greyhound bus pass under the fake name Sam Dawson. And so they said once the DA says, well, let's say he found this weapon that didn't have a permit.

The presence of illegal contraband permitted her to sign a search warrant authorizing continued search and seizure.

They also found his red journal, which had an entry from October 22nd, 2024, describing an intent to whack the CEO of an insurance company at the annual counter conference. So like first degree, first degree. He had a to-do list.

Some were checked off, like Best Buy USB digital cam. Some were not checked off, like Intel check, survival kit, hot meal, water bottles. He also had things like change hat, shoes, pluck eyebrows.

Check Pittsburgh red eyes.

His eyebrows were the most noticeable part of him, so that was probably on purpose.

I mean, he was completely covered at McDonald's except his eyebrows. That's how they got him.

Keat Momentum, FBI Slower Overnight, the heading December 5th, which was the day after the shooting, had a start entry by black shoes, white stripe, too distinctive. They noted that he was wearing all black shoes when he was arrested.

Spare socks, medical masks, electrical cords, protein bars, hand sanitizer. He had a stick of sandalwood and shea butter, sensitive skin deodorant.

Good days.

Can you imagine if you had to go to jail and you could only access what was in the commissary? You'd be like, where can I get my, not anymore, you'd be like, where can I get my Cora tampons?

Yeah, not anymore.

Where can I get my?

Oh yeah.

Yeah. An electric hair and beard clipper with multiple plastic comb attachments, a pair of white tip tweezers, $7,800 in large bills in currency from Thailand, Japan and India.

Oh, he was going around.

Totaling $1,620.

My gosh.

So anyway, the big discussion is like, can any of this be admissible? Because if it's not, that would be devastating. And it all goes back to whether or not the fact that they searched his bag is legal.

And I think honestly, most of the people, experts I've seen online, said this was legal. Like, officers have the right to protect themselves.

And so no one thinks that this is really gonna, the experts I see online, no one thinks this is gonna be overturned. They're gonna think it's all gonna be admissible.

But at a minimum, this is a good strategy for the defense to like preview what they're gonna present in court.

This is gonna be a really interesting trial.

Yeah. We'll be following this one.

Well, the thing is, is like, it feels like he's, how could he get out of this?

I don't know. I mean, again, when he first got arrested, I was like, I had questions.

That's true. You were questioning, you were thinking that it's a new guy, or it was like a team of people.

Yeah.

Or it just was like, does the timeline match up?

Does the, like-

I was convinced.

Are these the same people in each of these pictures? But I don't know. I'm getting more convinced also.

Yeah. And also I'm just so disgusted by all the people who are like, he's a hero.

Oh, he's so great.

I mean, he's like, he's making so much money. He's like a jailhouse hero. Everyone loves him in jail.

He shares his commissary money that people donate. He's like a GoFundMe.

That's nice. He's probably like, I don't deserve this. Maybe I'm putting words in his mouth, but.

Anyway.

I don't like that everyone's like, he's so great.

Well, those were my final, those were my December Conspiracy Theory updates.

Do you have any other things you want to share on our birthday episode here?

I would like to circle back to Stranger Things for one minute and talk about how Karen Wheeler and Billy had some major chemistry.

Which one's Billy?

Billy?

He was the big shirt.

Oh, Max's brother.

Max's stepbrother.

Isn't he toxic? No, I get it.

Yeah.

Oh, I get it.

Good for her. Good for her.

Oh, my God. That made me blush a little bit.

Right. I'm like, he really knows how to turn it on.

Oh, my God.

Listen, I despise Billy as a character. Let me just be.

He goes crazy.

He is crazy. He's lots of mental health issues. Okay, let's just be very clear about that.

And I despise Billy, but also at the same time.

Boy, he's fine.

You know, Karen could have had some fun.

That's all I'm saying.

I mean, her husband is kind of a dud.

Yeah. Ted Wheeler is easily one of the funniest characters on the show.

I will say, not that Karen needed a redemption arc, but she really does have a moment in season five.

When she let, yeah.

We're not spoiling it, right?

I'm so freaking tired of shows not releasing everything all at once.

I am so pro not releasing everything.

This is how we grew up. Every Tuesday, you had to sit down at 8 p.m. And be anonymized.

We did better.

I'm pro-binging.

Okay, hold on.

I'm so tired of waiting every freaking week.

Okay, can I give you my opinion on it?

That's why I wait till it's all out.

I know. I'm not mad at you about that.

It gets so annoying.

You know what I love? I love a monoculture event of people getting excited about watching something all together.

The finale of Game of Thrones.

I hate the finale of Game of Thrones.

The summer I turned pretty.

Summer every week.

I didn't like that.

We got so excited to see what was gonna happen.

I was mad.

And then we would watch the show and then people would talk about it again for a whole week. What do we think is gonna happen? What are our theories?

I would just like twice a week.

Well, when you do get the second batch of season two, you need to just, or season five, you need to just watch it because then when the finale comes out, it's gonna be in movie theaters.

You and Jordan can go to a movie theater and watch.

She doesn't watch that.

Okay. It's gonna be in a whole event and it's only a week.

And I'll binge it all before it comes out.

I just feel like it's so much fun to be excited about something.

Okay, like I get that and I understand the cultural, but I just, a week is too long. And this is even worse because they did like Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year, like that's so funny.

Yeah, they want you to be at Christmas dinner being like, oh my God.

Yeah, what happened? Did you watch?

Yeah.

I can't wait to watch it on Christmas at my parents' house.

I can talk about it on Christmas.

And for my parents to be behind me going, wait, what just happened?

Who's that person?

Wait, are they gonna get together?

The only thing I like weekly are like the survival shows that are filmed live. Like Dancing with the Stars was filmed live. So I understood why they needed a week because they were literally learning the dances each week.

Yeah, but then think about how excited you were to watch it over the season.

I know that like there weren't editors who knew what was going on because it was happening in real time.

No, I think you experienced a monocultural event with Dancing with the Stars because it was so big.

But it was a reality show.

It was all over.

It was all over the social medias. It was all up on TikTok.

I mean, Stranger Things is doing the same thing.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's a monocultural event. She's saying if they released 12 episodes, but you went to work, you didn't get to watch it, right? Everyone's on a whole different path.

You can't talk about whatever. And so I think that's what she's saying. She likes it.

It goes out. We all have a whole week where we're like, oh my God, what's gonna happen next week? Yeah, which is pretty much, which is pretty much how Dance With The Stars was for you, right?

Yeah, but like I knew there wasn't a plot I had to be left on.

I think this group, and actually this goes against what you're saying right now, Kait, but I think this group, not me, has an issue with delayed gratification.

Excluding me.

Meaning I think you two have an issue with delayed gratification.

You want what you want now.

Cliffhanger. The only reason why I read the Harry Potter books is because I was annoyed that I couldn't watch the last movie. So I read all the books in one week, pretty much.

So that I.

That is the only reason you read Harry Potter.

One of the reasons why I picked the book up.

Righteous anger in my belly right now.

Because I had only ever watched the movies, but then the new, the last movie was coming and I wanted to know what was happening. And I was so annoyed.

Is that you watched the movies and then you pictured the characters from the movies in the book?

Okay, well guess what? I was like three years old when the books came out, not even. So I will be watching Stranger Things on December 31st.

Okay. Will I wait for the final to come out?

Well, where do you watch? Will you binge it all and then?

Yes.

Okay.

The second I have bought my tickets for the final movie long episode, I will binge it all before.

Because you are going to go to the movie.

Probably, yeah. I just like going to the movies.

I do love that you love to go to the movies.

Well, this podcast is going to keep releasing once a week, so. Guys, just a reminder, don't forget to check out our Facebook and Instagram pages at 3Scheme Queens. That's the number 3 Scheme Queens, all one word.

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As always, if you choose not to financially support us, we appreciate the follows, the downloads, the listens, the likes. Kait, what should the people do?

Yeah, please scroll on down, leave us a five-star review. What I want you to do is take out your phone and text three different people who like Stranger Things, but also ship Billy and Karen.

Then scroll on down, leave us a five-star review, leave us a comment, share with your friends and family, interact with us on our social media platforms. Yeah.

Well, this was fun. Cheers to us, guys, on two years. Two years.

And dos años, look at me, Espanol.

Well, this was fun.

Cheers to two years.

Cheers to two years. Let's end on that.

And we'll see you next Tuesday.

See you next Tuesday.