The Origin of the Octopi

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Octopi are some of the most mysterious creatures on earth with their extraordinary intelligence, complex behaviors, and mind boggling abilities.  What if these enigmatic beings are not just bizarre animals but some far more extraordinary?  Alien life forms, perhaps?  The theory that ectopic could be extraterrestrial in origin has gained traction amongst some scientists and researchers due to the strikingly unusual features of these animals - with their highly advanced cognitive abilities, ability to alter their physical appearance, and genetic make up that seems at odds with typical earth organisms.  Could octopi be a product of another world, sent to earth by cosmic forces, or arriving here via ancient forgotten means?  In this exploration we'll dive deep into these compelling reasons why octopi might not just be Earth's oddities but maybe candidates for alien life.

Transcript

Welcome back, this is our fourth episode of the season?

That's right.

Fourth episode of our favorite season, the season.

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Is that your underwater noise?

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What's everybody been up to?

Swimming, you doing a lot of swimming?

Swimming.

Submerging.

Actually, I only swam with you that one time.

Really, that's it?

Well, cause I haven't been in my pool.

And that's the lake.

Megan doesn't have a pool.

Megan's been really killing it with the water vacations.

Yeah, Megan, the ultimate vacationer there right now.

You know, no children, no responsibilities.

And a free beach house.

No shoes, no shirts, no problem.

Yeah.

No problem.

Let's start this episode with a quick thank you to Kathy.

Thanks, Kathy.

She bought us some coffee.

Thank you, Kathy.

And she looks forward to each week's broadcast.

Oh, broadcast.

I like that word.

Does it make us sound a little more professional?

It does.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The weekly broadcast sounds a little more professional than just three girls on Megan's couch with a yappy dog.

That should be our next Instagram caption.

Just three girls on Megan's couch with a yappy dog.

That would be funny.

I like that.

Yeah, me too.

That's actually what our podcast should have been named.

Three girls on Megan's couch.

Wait.

Catchy.

Catchy.

Are you three girls on a couch?

Sounds dirty though.

Okay.

Is it time for-

Drink check.

Drink check.

Guys, what were we drinking today?

I liked it.

Yeah.

This is a cake cocktail.

This is a Coach Mike meatball.

Meatball.

Yeah.

So my dad, this was a little cocktail that my dad used to give us when we were hanging out in the backyard around the pool.

And it's just lemonade and simply lemonade and some Malibu rum.

Delicious.

Coconut rum.

It is good.

Megan's like, it tastes like sun stain.

Well, no, she was all excited.

And she was like, I've got a Malibu cocktail.

And I was a little judgy to begin with because I said, I have not had Malibu since I was 20 years old.

Malibu and OJ.

Or Malibu and Sprite.

Yeah, college.

College kids.

We were not drinking Malibu in college.

No, I wasn't drinking Malibu and Sprite.

I'll tell you that much.

I think I had Coke in Malibu, like coconut rum and Coke.

That was good.

Coke with coconut in it.

Remember when they have OJ?

No, I did not.

I don't like that.

Like a lime in it?

I don't like a lot of...

Anyway, so I, but I said, you know what?

Kait and Colleen usually have open minds about my cocktails.

I'm gonna have an open mind about this.

And it is pretty refreshing.

I will say the aftertaste gives me sunscreen vibes.

Yeah, immediately you're like, oh, I'm drinking sunscreen.

But that first sip, that lemonade with the hint of coconut is lovely.

Yeah.

I think it needs just like something else.

Colleen thinks tahin.

Tahin, like chamoy on the edge of the cup.

Have you seen that?

Or like a lime.

Let me ask you a question.

It needs an alternative flavor.

Do you have tahin in your house?

I do.

Do you know what tahin is?

Do I know what tahin is?

Yes, because I have been to Mexico.

The seasonal salt.

Many times.

I put it on mango.

I put it on watermelon.

I put it on apples.

I love tahin.

I don't have it in my house.

Okay, well, these girls looked at me like, she was like, oh, you know what?

It needs a tahin.

Do you have any tahin, Megan?

This is a normal staple in some of soap.

So good.

It would taste so good.

All right.

Listeners, let us know if you normally have tahin in your house.

Yeah, they're all going to say no.

Now, I feel like it's very popular.

I don't like tahin, personally.

But Megan, you love a theme.

Yeah.

So I feel like tahin is like, I thought maybe you would have bought something for a theme before.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

I could have seen that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You guys are giving me a lot of credit.

Well, you have that like random popcorn seasoning.

That's good.

Yeah.

Oh, no, that came from a restaurant because I was, it was like a bar and they give you free popcorn and it had really good seasoning.

I had had a couple of drinks and I was like, this is so good.

Do you sell this?

And they were like, we sell it.

And I was like, Psh.

Sold.

And yes, I believe it's gone.

I believe I've used it all.

Oh.

Damn.

That was good.

It was good.

We just went to a restaurant out where we are and they also did popcorn, like free popcorn with like a season, a house seasoning on.

And I was like, yeah, see, you should ask them if they sell the house seasoning.

They probably do.

So anyway, that was our drink check.

Yeah.

It was good, Kait.

Yeah, Kait was like, I have to stop at the grocery store.

I have a couple of drink checks for us today.

She came with all of her supplies.

And thank you, FML.

Coach Mike, this is medical leave, Kait.

Mix it up, Doctails.

I've been off the narcotics for a while.

Okay, so no mixing things here.

All right, well, I've been really excited for this one.

Yes, this is a good one.

We've been hyping this one.

I am excited.

Octopi.

Yeah, so we're doing Octopi.

Are they aliens?

Yes.

Let's see.

Yes.

I made it, yes.

If they got a fire alien.

Are they related to like eels?

No.

But didn't they come here on a meteor?

That is a thought.

Okay, tell me more.

Also, I'm sorry, have you seen them climb into little holes?

Yes.

They have facial recognition, right?

They're amazing.

They're crazy intelligent.

Like almost the smartest dolphins.

Smarter, I thought.

No one is the smartest of dolphins.

They're the smartest invertebrate.

I'll get to that.

Okay, I'm ready.

I'm immediately suspicious.

Okay.

So Octopi are some of the most mysterious creatures on Earth with their extraordinary intelligence, complex behaviors, and mind-boggling abilities.

But what if these enigmatic beings aren't just bizarre animals but something far more extraordinary?

Alien life forms, perhaps?

The theory that Octopi could be extraterrestrial in origin has gained traction among some scientists and researchers due to the strikingly unusual features of these animals.

With their highly advanced cognitive abilities, ability to alter their physical appearance and genetic makeup that seems at odds with typical Earth organisms, could Octopi be a product of another world sent to Earth by cosmic forces or arriving here via ancient forgotten means?

Whoa.

And this exploration will dive deep into these compelling reasons why Octopi might not just be Earth's oddities, but maybe candidates for alien life.

Whoa.

I mean, I am sold.

I think you dove deep into that.

I wonder if they related to the Lake Bacall swimmers, because they had that like, oh yeah, dome-y, that's more like jellyfish-y type head, right?

Yeah, but I mean, like sandy cheeks.

You say Octopi have like a jellyfish type head, right?

Yeah.

Anyway, let's talk a little bit about the biology of...

Well, this is your wheelhouse, Kait.

Tell us about the bio.

Okay.

So did you guys know the Octopi have three hearts?

Oh, this is familiar.

Yeah.

Octopi have three hearts, and they have one heart that like does main circulation throughout their body, and then they have two smaller hearts that sit next to theills.

To me, that means like it's probably...

What did she say?

She just did it.

She just did the like...

It was like for their lymphatic system.

Isn't their blood system different?

No.

I'm thinking about...

What's that type of crab?

Yeah.

Horseshoe.

Yeah.

That's what I was thinking.

Okay.

So each of them are set next to the gills.

And I feel like those are the ones that are like oxygenating, like during the oxygenation and maybe at some point, they make the main heart.

Okay.

Actually, like diatomab.

I was like, that's your guesstimation.

Yeah.

Whereas our heart is situated right next to our lungs, and it's kind of works together, right?

They have nine brains.

I think this is something you guys know.

Oh, nine brains.

Yeah.

They have one central brain.

And then in each of their tentacles, so eight tentacles, they have independent brains, but they don't function independently from the centralized brain.

So in my head, I'm thinking it's sort of like a spinal cord.

Like a spinal cord doesn't function.

Or is it like a conjoined twin where they have their own brains, but they are still able to work together?

Maybe.

Each arm that an octopus has, has 200 suckers on them, and they are as sensitive as a fingertip, a nose, and a tongue put together.

Yeah.

Immediately I have my fingertips by my nose and mouth.

Like they can smell as sensitive to a nose, taste as sensitive to a tongue, and touch as sensitive to a fingertip.

Gosh.

Can you imagine if they're over-stimulated?

And a suction cup?

Each suction cup.

Oh my God.

I'd be going insane all the time.

Don't touch me.

Yeah.

Think about if they had sensory dyssensitization.

It would be so messed up.

Oh my God.

I'd be crying.

They can change their appearance up to 170 times per hour.

Whoa.

They can stretch their skin.

How do they change their colors?

Like, color wide and super long, so they can become longer, but then their legs can literally become wider, and their skin become super transparent.

That's how they break in and out of the cages.

And then they are what's called cephalopods.

So a cephalopod is a class of marine mollusks, and this label applies to more than just octopi.

You have squids, cattle fishes, and nautiluses are also cephalopods.

I don't know what a nautilus or a cuttlefish is.

But a cuttlefish?

I've heard of cuttlefish.

I've seen cuttlefish.

You eat cuttlefish, right?

I think you can eat a cuttlefish.

I have seen cuttlefish before.

I don't know if I've seen that, but I just knew of the word.

So the word cephalopod, literally in the Greek, means head, foot.

And it's fitting for a description for these animals because they have multiple appendages extending directly from their heads.

Octopi have the largest and most developed brains and nervous system out of all of the invertebrates.

They have an ink sack that they usually use if they're like in danger.

They will ink and then it'll use, it's like a, it's like a, you know, like when the bad guys like throw the smoke bomb down and then they disappear?

That's like what an ink, what their ink does is like they ink and then they disappear and it confuses their head.

So funny.

Yeah.

And the ink is made up of like mucus and melanin, which is like how our skin is and nails and hair are pigmented.

And they just grow that?

Well, I think it's probably like a sand.

Do we just call it ink because it looks like ink, but it's not technically because it's made up of what you just said.

I wonder if anybody's ever like stolen it to write with it.

I don't know if this is an octopus ink pen.

Also, I wonder what it smells like.

Probably smells bad.

Yes, it is possible to write with squid ink.

Squid ink.

Though it's not the same as modern pen ink.

But yes, cuttlefish ink has been used for writing and drawing for centuries.

The quill pen and calligraphy brush.

Maybe that's why I knew of the word.

We're definitely talking about octopus mating, right?

Yes.

Because I'm getting faint Internet memories of octopus penis, and they're weird.

The common octopus also has a two-part beak.

Yeah.

They bite.

They do, and they can break things.

That's how they eat their crabs, and they crunch them up, and they love crabs.

Me too.

Yeah.

The beak is mostly made of chitin.

Okay.

It's indigestible, so if a predator comes and eats an octopus, then they can tell because it's indigestible, so it'll just sit in their system.

That's weird.

Yeah.

What eats octopus?

Sharks.

Oh.

Yeah.

Lionfish.

Megalodons.

Megalodons.

Flounder.

Flounder eat octopi?

Yeah.

Flounder get that big?

Yeah.

And like from...

Yeah.

Wow.

Bottom crawlers, baby.

Okay.

Octopi are older than dinosaurs.

Did you guys know this?

They've just been...

They've existed since before they existed.

Oh, oh.

They were here before the dinosaurs.

That's crazy.

So you're trying to tell me the megalodon could not survive, you know, the ice age.

Yes.

Yet the octopi has survived the octopi...

Octopus?

Three Armageddon's.

Oh, my gosh.

They are, you guys...

How do we age them?

How do we know they're aged?

Do you know that?

I'm dating.

So in 1998, scientists found a fossil...

Whoa...

.

in Montana's Bear Gulch limestone formation.

And the fossil was approximately 330 million years old, which means that it was...

The octopi had been here before the dinosaurs, heir of the dinosaurs.

And for reference, dinosaurs lived during the Triassic period, which was roughly 245 to 233 million years ago, until the end of the Cretaceous period, which was about 66 million years ago.

So octopi lived 100 million years before the...

Whoa.

Isn't that wild?

They are resilient.

They are...

So they saw...

Their code is wild.

They saw pangea, right?

Maybe.

I don't know when pangea exists.

I love plate tectonics.

I should know this.

So actually, the scientists were really excited because, as one knows, a cephalopod is an invertebrate, and they do not have any bones.

Right.

So it is very hard, as we referenced, with our sharks, sharks, like...

To find...

.

hard to date with when they came from because they...

Unless you date with their teeth because they don't have any bones, there's no fossils of sharks.

It's very hard to fossilize an animal who doesn't have any bones.

And so scientists were very excited about this.

But this fossil was 4.7 inches, and it had 10 limbs, which modern octopi...

Maybe this is what you're thinking about.

Modern octopi only have 8, and each of its arms had two rows of suckers.

And it's most likely lived in, like, a shallow tropical bay.

This creature, they said was a vampir...

Vampir-a-pod?

A vampire?

Yeah, that's how it...

Vampir-a-pod.

It's not a vampire.

No, it's just an ancient ancestor of an octopus and squid.

So, this is a fun fact about this fossil.

It's named a very interesting word that I cannot say.

Go ahead, spell it.

After Joe Biden.

It wasn't Joe Biden.

It was named after President Joe Biden in 1998, so I don't even know, like, what was he doing?

Oh, he was boing back then.

Boing as hell.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have you seen what he looked like young?

He's handsome.

You could get it.

He looked like a Delaware rich boy.

Well, Octopi are masters of disguise, so they can change their shape and color and texture in a fraction of a second.

Like literally one-fifth of a second.

They can change all of that about themselves.

They can choose to hide and like when to hide and when to reveal themselves.

The brains are directly connected to their skin and those muscles in their skin is directly connected to 200 million sacks of different color pigments, which means basically they can choose an endless variety of patterns and colors and textures to like change into in a fraction of a second.

Wild.

I've already said this, but they can also stretch their skin super wide.

This is kind of like a defense mechanism because it literally is supposed to make them look weird and they do look weird, and it's to freak out their predators and the predator be like, what is that?

Do I want to eat that?

That's literally why they do it.

To make themselves look weird.

How do they have this thought process?

Also, remember all the times I've told you that they can change into different colors so they go into this coral and they make themselves look like the coral.

Right.

So the coral, Octopi are color blind.

Oh, how do they know what colors they're picking?

Exactly.

How do we know they're color blind?

They're color blind in their eyes, but they use their little suckers to see.

They sense light through their skin.

And color's just light.

It's not like, yeah.

Right.

Whoa.

Basically, they see through their skin.

They're super intelligent.

So scientists have actually witnessed Octopi using tools.

But the correct way.

Yeah.

For example, they'll find a coconut husk and use it to hide themselves under.

Or they've demonstrated using opening lids on their-

Oh, yeah.

They can completely open a peanut butter jar.

Yep.

And close it.

Yes.

And they can-

From inside.

I've seen that.

It's crazy.

Did you guys read-

What was the book?

The octopus book?

Off by Teacher.

Remarkably Bright Creatures.

Oh, I do want to read that book.

You just got to read the book, okay?

Good.

Megan, did you like it?

Yeah.

It was good.

I feel like Megan never really likes books.

After I do.

But she finishes them.

Yeah, but then I feel like you're like, it's fine.

I DNF my-

No, this is 4.8 stars out of 5.

After Tova Sullivan's husband died, she began working the night shift at the aquarium, mopping floors and tidying up, keeping busy to help cope since her 18-year-old son, Eric, mysteriously vanished on a boat in Puget Sound 30 years ago.

And there she becomes acquainted with the curmudgeonly Marcellus, a giant Pacific octopus living at the aquarium.

A curmudgeon octopus, that's what I want to be known as.

He would, so they become friends.

But anyway, he like, yeah, so the story's like from his point of view and from the versus.

Anyway, we digress.

I love the word curmudgeon.

I want to be a curmudgeon old lady.

You could never be a curmudgeon.

I want to be.

I know, I don't think you could be.

I can't get over that they can see through their shit.

They also like, I know, they also require a lot of like physical and mental stimulation, so if they're not getting a lot of stimulation, they'll just play with their food.

Like, terrorize their living, like a little sociopath.

Yeah, that's what my old cat used to do.

Yeah.

They have like tons of personality.

They're often like mischievous.

You can see, which I will send this video to Megan, but there's a video online of this octopi, like at an aquarium and he's like coming out of the tank to like say hi to the people that are all around them.

But when I watched this, I thought it was terrifying.

Like if I saw that, I'd be like, I'm getting out of here.

This is scary.

Also, there was this famous octopus called Inky.

Inky, that sounds like something I would name.

He escaped from the national, he escaped from the National Aquarium of New Zealand, which makes me think of Finding Nemo.

He escaped in the dead of night by opening his own tank and slipping through the drain on the floor.

He just left.

He's like, I'm done.

I kind of like that.

I know.

It's bored.

It kind of sounds adorable.

I'm done.

They've also been known to like squirt jets of water at people or like punch other octopi who were like annoying them.

There's like a famous like...

He's just a bully.

Yeah, they're funny.

There was also an octopus named Paul.

Paul?

Yeah, I know you love this.

His name was Paul.

I like that.

That's like the third eye monkey in Jimmy Neutron.

Ah, Paul.

And between 2008 and 2010, they asked this octopus, right, like verbally, and you pick the winners of these FIFA games.

And 14 times they asked him this.

And he picked it?

12 times he was correct.

So we had an 85 and 87 to an accuracy rate.

I likes it.

Isn't that weird?

Paul.

Like he knew?

That's weird.

Like he had alien skills?

What made them think?

Let's ask the squid.

Yeah, I don't know.

That would be weird.

I mean, that would be like me being like, Murphy, who's gonna win the Super Bowl?

And he's like, huh?

What?

Imagine I'm an octopus named Paul.

And I was like, I gotta go home.

Paul's at home.

I need more background.

Like who named him?

I'm like, Paul's bored.

He's starting eating the dog.

Gotta get home to Paul.

Okay, now mating.

Oh God.

This is the best part.

Yeah, they have got creepy.

They've got an extra limb.

We were watching this documentary.

Who, you?

Yeah, me, my husband and both my children.

Oh God.

Oh, this is like my family movies.

And so they wanted to watch it with me.

I was like, sure.

And then this mating scene came up and they were both watching it.

And Patch was like, what is it doing?

And Joey was like, this is weird.

They're going to remember this forever, ever.

You said Bourbon Boy just kept looking at you like, yeah, it's just like Bourbon Boy was just, he was like, this is you.

Mom, remember when you made us watch Octopi mating?

I was like, they're making little Octopi.

They were like, why is it like this?

Wait, we got to watch it now.

I need to see it.

They put on like slow jazz in the background.

So they were like, it's incredible.

They're letting us watch.

But if I had like fast forwarded it, they would have like, I know your question.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

Just giggled the whole time.

That's a parenting win.

Okay.

So now how do they do it?

So they are there different gender Octopi?

Okay.

Male and female.

So Octopi, typically they lay their eggs.

Okay.

So they don't have a uterus.

They don't like carry their babies inside of them.

So each male has a specialized mating arm.

Right.

It looks different than the other arms.

So wait, they have eight arms, but one arm is also a penis.

For the men.

For the men.

Has extra sensory for a penis.

And like sperm just shoots out of it.

Yes.

Okay.

But before the female, like the male will come up to the female and they like touch each other first.

Yeah.

Right.

They play around.

Well, they can see through their freaking skin.

So can you imagine what this is like?

And then the female will be like, prove yourself to me.

Oh my God.

So he whips out his extra arm and he says, just suck on this.

No.

And then they like, it's like very much like peacocking.

Like they like show all the colors and patterns that they can make them so.

Oh my God.

I want to watch it.

And then the woman or the female is like, okay.

Permitted.

So then she says permitted.

She shoots out all of the sperm from her other encounters.

Right.

And is like, I'm going to-

How long can they hold sperm for?

A while, cause they can mix it.

How do you know who the baby daddy is?

They don't.

You have multiple.

Yeah.

And so they are like out with the old, in with the new.

Oh my God.

So then the guy, the male inserts his special little mating arm into her.

Yep.

It was like in her head.

Oh, no.

Oh my God.

It was somewhere like that way.

And this is when my kid started asking questions like, what is he doing?

And then he shoots a pocket of sperm from his arm into this woman.

How long until she's pregnant?

Well, she can apparently hold on to the sperm and mix it and like, she has a mantle cavity which receives sperm packets called spermatophores from the male octopi arm.

I'm ready to receive your sperm packet.

It's in their head.

That's a thick one arm.

Her mantle is like her head.

Oh my God.

Yeah, the male's arm goes up into like where you would think their ear would be.

Eww.

It's like their gills.

And their ovaries are like at the pointy part of their head.

But she can choose when she wants to...

I'm assuming she probably can carry it until, well, this is the sad part.

So then when the female like decide to have eggs, they go and they lay their eggs and then they die.

Because it bursts out of their head?

No, they just die.

That's part of their life cycle.

Like they could only reproduce one time?

Yep.

But they literally lay 500,000 eggs once.

Well, they can't just reproduce, because how did they get rid of all the sperm?

They've been doing something because they've been ejecting sperm.

Right.

So I think they decide when they want to have eggs.

Wow.

Or maybe it's just one cycle and they know.

They wait with their eggs until they hatch.

And when they hatch, the female parishes.

And then you have little microscopic.

Can you tell me?

And well, then who raises them?

The ocean.

Yeah.

Mother Earth.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh.

Megan has brought up a mating video.

I found a Reddit video.

He's like attacking her.

It looks so kind of aggressive.

It wasn't aggressive, the one that I watched.

Thank God.

My poor children would have been.

Okay.

That, I wouldn't have thought they were mating.

I'm sorry, back to your video.

I would have thought they were strangling each other.

So they just die.

That's so sad.

I know.

I know.

Okay.

But now that we've got all of that out of the way.

Yeah.

How are they aliens?

Okay.

They're genetic.

I mean, she hasn't even told me anything, and I'm already even more convinced.

Like, I've been around longer than the dinosaurs.

Right.

Boom, done.

They have all these special powers that no other animal has.

And it's an invertebrate.

Like, they're typically not very smart.

What's another example of an invertebrate?

Squid.

And other one?

Puddlefish.

Oh, right.

Of the ones we listed at the beginning of the video.

Jellyfish is a...

Jellyfish is a...

Okay, they're very...

Like, what did they exist for?

Pause.

It says, after laying eggs, the female octopi enter a death spiral where they stop eating and just waste away.

Every time, no matter what?

And they might even start tearing at their own skin and biting their own arms.

They have a gland that's like, a pituitary gland.

And so after they lay their eggs, it like switches.

Yeah.

This is like the most severe case of postpartum depression.

Yeah, that's true.

What if we gave them some SSRI?

SSRI is for everybody is what I say.

Sprinkle it in the water.

Forget the flora.

So their genetic code, this is really the kicker.

Okay.

I didn't hear anything about them coming over on a meteor or anything like that, but basically their genetic code is so complex.

It's more complex than ours.

Sounds like it.

It's considered that it's so complex, it's considered to like out of this world.

So there was a big project called the Octopus Genome Project where they did a huge undertaking to kind of try and map out the Octopi DNA.

And it took place with researchers of University of Chicago.

And they also worked with the Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology in Japan to kind of break down this genome.

And together, they were able to kind of unlock these genes.

This like, when we say genetic code, we know that everyone, we have 42 sets of chromosomes, but on each chromosome has a different genetic code.

That is responsible for different things in our body.

The color of our eyes, the color of our hair, how tall we're going to be, all of these things.

But the genetic code, we have about 23,000 as humans.

Octopi have 33,000 genes.

They have that much more.

They're more complex than who were allegedly the smartest creatures.

Are there any other animals that have the similar amount?

No.

This is sets them apart from the invertebrates.

They are in an invertebrate.

They have similar sets of genes that can be found in humans, that make up their neurons and their neural network.

If their brain, which can account for how intelligent they are, how they can use certain jars and, you know, whatever.

And they also, like, have a large brain that's like the circular, and their enclosed circulatory system.

All of these things kind of look like mammals and humans, which are different than, like, any of the other invertebrates.

But the huge discovery is that Octopi can improve their genetic code.

They can basically shut up genes.

That's crazy.

Yes.

So, they can edit their own RNA, which RNA is the, is when you, when you break down genes, you have an RNA, and the RNA, and then you have the mRNA, and the mRNA comes in and basically copies the RNA to paste it into the new gene, into the new chromosome, basically.

And that's how we replicate as humans, and that's how we grow in cells.

Like it's all based on our DNA and the RNA.

So basically, they can adapt.

You were asking how have they survived?

Survived.

How did Megalodon not survive?

They just get smarter.

Because they can literally edit their own RNA to be able to adapt in any environment.

This is 100 percent an extraterrestrial.

Right.

Maybe they came from an environment that was completely different from the earth.

And that's been my whole thing with the aliens is like, how do we even know that they could live on our earth?

Because it's completely different than-

And there's just no other creature like them.

Right.

Anyway.

Can Octopi survive outside of water?

For a little bit though, can't they?

Yeah.

I mean, the Octopi that escaped.

Oh, yeah.

Well, he had to ex-

Yeah, I guess, you know, I guess in the book, I read Marcel was out of the water.

They can flatten themselves and survive in a puddle.

They don't need that much depth of water.

They're like a betta fish.

Right.

They don't need much.

Thirty minutes, they can survive that set of water.

Wow.

Actually, I thought that was longer.

I'm pretty sure-

Look it up.

Aren't betta fish three days?

Betta fish can survive three days out in the water?

We have betta fish that kept jumping out.

I'm pretty certain.

Maybe it's three hours.

Can you look it up?

Three minutes.

It's got a three in there?

There's something crazy about them.

We got 10% of the information, so let's take that with-

It's three something.

Half an hour.

What?

10% of 30?

Three.

Right.

Move to zero.

It says they can-

Move the dust bowl.

They have ability to breathe air using a special organ called the labyrinth organ.

Are we talking about betta fish?

Yeah.

But they can't dry out.

It's like they can breathe, but you want them to kind of be moist.

Yeah.

So yeah, fun facts.

When Octopi swim, their hearts stop beating.

Oh.

How do they keep swimming?

They tend to spend more time crawling than swimming.

And also when I was watching them swim, I was like, how do they do it?

Because it's like they can move without moving.

That's very strange.

I'm like, is it their beak?

There's a type of octopus called the blue-ringed octopus who can literally dial up their color, like magnify their color and increase the contrast of their color because they're highly poisonous with like one bite they can kill a small kid in seconds.

This octopus is the size of a golf ball.

So when there's prey or predators around, he just dials up his color to be like, watch, you guys think you can mess with me?

Where do they live?

Fry to change his colors because he knows how like, poisonous he is.

Where does that one live?

Australia.

You have the Day Octopi and they're like the monarchs of camouflage.

But there's also the Mimic Octopi who can literally, he is named the Mimic because he can shift and shape into like his own predators to trick them.

So like he can, like a flounder will eat, will try and eat them, and he just shifts into a flounder.

And it is crazy.

He looks like a flounder.

And then also the like lionfish.

And every time I hear lionfish, I think of CC from New Girl because Schmidt was like, I need that lionfish.

And octopus is also, whenever it's unfortunate to be caught by a predator, it can just like escape by giving it, giving the predator like one of his arms because it can regrow its arm like a liver.

Where can you see Octopi?

I'm so happy you guys asked me.

Yeah, where do I avoid?

Yeah.

So they're in Hawaii.

They're in Kona and Maui.

They're in the Philippines.

They're in Indonesia, which is apparently one of the best diving destinations in the world.

If you guys want to dive, I don't want to dive.

I think I would die.

If I saw a shark swimming at me, no, immediately no.

I wouldn't be able to keep my cool.

You just hit him in the nose.

Decompression sickness when she shoots to the surface.

Yeah.

I couldn't do it because I'm claustrophobic.

Like the idea of like, no.

I'd forget to keep my mouth closed.

Yeah.

I was like, yeah.

You.

No one is surprised by your claustrophobia and your anxiety.

You would be swimming and forget to keep your mouth closed?

Oh my God.

You can also find them in Mexico, on both the Caribbean and the Pacific Coast.

You can find them in Australia, specifically in the Great Barrier Reef.

Great Barrier Reef is dying.

Actually, it's regrown.

Oh.

Yeah.

It was dying before, but it's regrown now.

We're saving it.

Greece.

I'm boating through Greece next year.

Oh, can you go?

We're going?

Yeah.

Can you find us an Octopi?

Oh.

You're going to Greece?

Megan goes on these trips.

We're going.

Megan goes on these trips and never invites us.

And they're also in Malta.

I don't know where that is.

Me neither.

I feel like Megan would know.

Because Megan's a traveler.

Is it off of Africa?

Malta feels Southeast Asia.

Europe.

Oh.

Mediterranean Sea between Sicily and North Africa.

Oh, that makes sense.

Is that where we get calamari?

Well, calamari is squid, not octopus.

Oh, my God.

But we, what do you call?

Octopus?

You just octopus.

Oh.

You just eat it as octopus.

One of the ones you eat while it's still kind of alive in Japan, it's like a sushi and the tentacles like moving.

No, it's a tentacle.

No.

And if they don't cook it right, it's like poisonous.

I don't believe this.

I'm pretty sure that's eel.

Look it up.

It is a tentacle.

While tentacles still moving?

Japan.

I've seen videos of it.

Well, if you saw it on TikTok, then it definitely...

This was my YouTube days...

.

Sanakji, a Korean dish of live octopus...

Korea...

.

not Japan, involves eating tentacles that are still moving, which can be dangerous due to the active suckers potentially causing choke...

choking.

The active suckers can adhere to the throat, leading to a choking...

Oh my gosh, why would you eat that?

And it's like, it has to be prepared in a very particular way.

It like wiggles around on the plate.

No.

Yeah, it's warning it.

It may be found.

Oh my god.

And then they eat it.

What?

I know.

It's a delicacy.

Like, it's...

he's right, Megan.

Well, they like poured soy sauce and he just started like flailing.

Oh.

They are not really alive.

The soy sauce activates...

this is a YouTube comment.

The soy sauce activates their nerves because they were recently killed and it is still fresh.

Yeah, you have to eat it though.

Like, maybe that's what it is.

You have to eat it like there's a certain time frame from when it dies.

I don't know.

Okay.

Anyways, 10 percent.

Anyway, that's my presentation.

Okay, we have no proof proof that the eggs came on an asteroid.

Yeah, there's no proof, but like basically scientists are all theorizing that it could be extra extraterrestrial life.

Yeah.

So I don't know if this is an actual conspiracy.

This could be proof, proof, fact, true.

Yeah, this could be fact.

No one's trying to cover this up.

Right.

Okay.

What do you guys think?

I still think they're actually, you've convinced me even more that they're extra extraterrestrial.

Yeah.

I just don't even like to see the videos where they, again, where they like slide under a door, even though it's just like creep me out.

Again, if I saw an octopus climbing out of his cage, I would not stick around to see what it was going to do.

No way.

No, thank you.

What do you think, Colleen?

There's no proof-proof that it's not an alien.

That's true.

There's no proof that it's not an alien.

I think it's definitely an irregular creature and not from Earth.

Well, that's an alien.

That's what I'm saying.

An extraterrestrial.

Well, that was really well-researched.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

I hope you guys enjoyed learning about Octopi as much as I did because I really find them fascinating.

Yeah.

I want to watch that documentary now.

Yeah.

Oh, it's called Secrets of the Octopus.

Well, that's one of my sources, but Secrets of the Octopus on Disney+.

If you have Disney+, go.

It's a three-part documentary.

It's a big commitment for you.

I know.

I have time.

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