Was the Titanic Sinking a Conspiracy to Ensure the Success of the Federal Reserve?

**Discussion begins at 4:08**

We are taking another look at the infamous sinking of the Titanic - This time discussing the conspiracy theory that the sinking was intentionally planned to ensure the success of the Federal Reserve.  Was the sinking orchestrated to eliminate individuals who opposed the creation of the Federal Reserve System? Several wealthy men, including John Jacob Astor IV, Isidor Straus, and Benjamin Guggenheim, were all aboard the Titanic and died in the disaster.  Today, they would be worth a combined 11 billion dollars.  What else did they have in common?  All three allegedly opposed the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, which aimed to centralize control of US monetary policy.  The sinking of the Titanic occurred in April 1912, and the Federal Reserve Act was signed into law just over a year later in December 1913.  Is this merely a coincidence?  Or was there something more sinister at play?

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Hey, guys.

Hey, guys.

Just eating some sourdough over here.

Megan's in her sourdough era, and we're, Kait and I are thriving because of that.

We thought it was gonna be me, but it wasn't me.

We should have known, actually.

I think that-

Megan really is a follow-through.

She's a homesteader.

I also think that for someone who doesn't have any children to be responsible for, I just have a lot of living things.

I'm like, I wake up, and it's like, I gotta deal with the dog.

I gotta feed the starter.

I gotta water the plants.

You feed it twice a day?

No, you feed it once a day.

Actually, and now I spaced out.

Wow.

I just kept feeding mine every day.

I kept it alive until I went on vacation, and then once I went on vacation, that was it.

You just put it in the fridge when you-

I did.

I never took it out.

Okay.

It'll probably still come back alive, to be honest.

She's done.

She's moved on.

I threw it all away.

Have you met our friend, Kait?

You think she just left something in her fridge just in case at some point?

I kept looking at it.

I was like, that's gross.

Yeah, you had to throw it away.

Mix the black stuff into it.

The ballerina farm kit has been known to not work well.

Oh.

Why'd you get it from me?

I didn't know that at the time.

I don't really know why.

It's okay because you're not doing it.

I wasn't committed.

You're not doing it.

Have you made your own nut milk yet?

No, I keep forgetting about that, actually.

I put it away.

I know if she put it where she can't see it, and if she can't see it, she doesn't use it.

I suffer from the same disease.

I don't know why you need a kit.

What did you call it?

A sourdough?

She needed the starter.

It came with the starter.

Yeah, there's a whole kit that it came with.

You didn't make your own starter?

No.

No, it was a dehydrated starter.

Yeah, she had a reactivator.

Megan, from scratch, made her starter.

All you need is a jar of flour.

You don't need yeast.

That's the whole point.

We're making our own.

I just know on the floor.

You can't put water in a jar, you know?

I just have friends that do it.

Well, maybe that was the problem.

And some patients, which I think that was the problem.

Well, yeah, but then I was like, it's just takes so long.

I guess that's the patience part, right?

It's just a whole process.

I just want to eat bread when I want bread.

I use Mermaid Girl's recipe now.

It was yeast.

It's like fake yeast.

So is it time for our drink check?

Drink check.

So guys, I was looking for a Titanic-themed drink.

Megan tried.

They exist.

They all have blue curacao, which always kind of weirds me out.

Yeah.

Or you had to have an ice shredder.

Ice, what are we talking about?

Like an ice.

Or one big ice block.

Like an ice slushy type thing.

Oh, an ice shredder.

Yeah, I couldn't think of the word.

The word crumbles it.

So anyway.

Iceberg.

It was all just too much.

You could have made.

What could I have made?

A Bloody Jack with Iceberg lettuce.

Ice Bloody Mary.

Iceberg lettuce.

With Iceberg lettuce.

A Bloody Jack, which first of all, Bloody Mary is made with vodka.

Yeah, but like a Bloody Jack, like Jack, I'll never let go.

Well, instead we're having an investment julep, because we're talking about the Federal Reserve.

About the Federal Reserve.

Did you name that yourself?

No, I Googled it.

But I think it's just a mint julep that someone named.

That's so funny.

Probably some finance bro thought it was funny.

That is so funny.

It's an investment.

All right, Colleen, what are you going to teach us today?

Have you ever thought to yourself, where does our money come from?

Do you ever think about banks really hard, and just like not understand how they have the money?

Well, I know you two do.

Well, yeah, for sure.

Today, we're going to do, what, Kait?

20 families and I went and wanted to pull all of our money out.

We would not have that.

The banks would not be able to do it.

They don't have that much money on them, I hear.

Anyways, we're going to do what we always say we do, follow the money.

Okay.

In particular, we're following the money behind the drama and the massacre of the Titanic.

Dun, dun, dun.

We will be answering the infamous question that I actually didn't know about until Kait brought it up one day.

Were millionaires purposely killed off in the Titanic crash to thus create the Federal Reserve?

Yes.

I don't know about this, actually.

First of all, you have to believe that the Titanic was deliberately sank.

Yeah, well-

To believe this conspiracy theory-

You have to believe it was purposeful.

You have to believe it's purposeful.

So if you don't believe it's purposeful, you don't believe this.

Automatically, you don't believe it.

Kait, do you believe the Titanic was purposely sunk?

Yes or no?

I mean, I don't want to believe that.

But you believe in the conspiracy theory?

I don't want to believe that people would be that heartless-

Right.

To deliberately sink with all those people on it.

However, greedy people are greedy people.

Correct.

Okay, Megan, do you think the Titanic was sunk purposefully yesterday or no?

No, because how many people died on the Titanic?

April 14th, 1912, 1,517 people died out of 2,223.

I just can't believe.

Honestly, when I think about the Titanic, I think of way more people than that.

Not that that's not a lot of people, to be clear.

But I just thought 1,500 people?

I've been on a ship with more people than that.

Right.

Yeah, it's like a third of my high school.

Right.

So anyway, not that it's not sad, to be fair.

But I still, I just can't believe that they would be like, we're going to kill all these people.

Greedy people are greedy people.

So why were they purposely trying to sink it?

Let me answer that question.

So the question of this conspiracy is, did JP Morgan deliberately sink the Titanic ship to kill off several millionaires who were in opposition of the Federal Reserve, which was something he was pushing for at the time?

Right.

So you need to know some background of America at the time.

So there was an incident in 1907 called the Panic of 1907.

Okay.

Were any of you familiar with that?

No.

Because I was not.

Essentially, what happened was, there was a bank scare.

And during this era of America, was repeated bank scares, which is essentially what happened in the Great Depression.

People would freak out over drop in stock market, pull their money out, America crashes.

And like repeatedly over and over again.

And this had just happened in 1907.

And so JP Morgan, who is an investor, I'm gonna get more into the background of JP Morgan, felt to stabilize the financial status of America, we needed a unified, neutral, nationwide bank to thus stabilize finances in America.

And that is the Federal Reserve.

And so that's what he was pushing for after the 1907 scare.

The conspiracy is saying that many of the other bigger millionaires were arguing against the Federal Reserve and fighting JP Morgan on that.

There were three people on the Titanic that are allegedly well known for fighting JP Morgan and his fight for the Federal Reserve.

John Jacob Astor IV, who was well known in America for his control of properties and real estate.

Benjamin Guggenheim, who led mining in America.

And Isidor Straus, who owned Macy's.

Which at the time was made him a millionaire, okay?

These were the three people that died on the Titanic that were allegedly purposefully planned to die on the Titanic.

They didn't know that, but JP Morgan and his supporters allegedly knew that.

Okay, that's a conspiracy.

It was created on December 23rd, 1913 with something that was called the Federal Reserve Act.

This was in response to the Panic of 1907, which revealed weaknesses in the US financial system.

Like I said, this was initially thought of by Alexander Hamilton, which he...

I was just going to sing something about the musical name, but...

Yeah, I will not.

So what is the Federal Reserve, also known as the Fed?

It's a central bank of the United States that's responsible for promoting a stable and healthy monetary and financial system in America.

So I talked about how we had a repetition of bank scares.

Our financial and economic state in America at the time was very fragile and kept having repeated crashes.

So we needed something that would support the country financially to prevent crashes.

So the Federal Reserve was something they were pushing for.

This actually was originally created and thought of and pushed for by Alexander Hamilton, who was the first Secretary of Treasury.

I was going to ask how this was different from Alexander Hamilton.

It's not.

It's the same thing.

It's what he wanted, but was shot down at the time.

So what is the purpose of the Federal Reserve?

It's meant to be an independent from politics.

It's not supposed to have pressure from the people leading the government in real time.

They say it's supposed to promote long-term economic stability without sway by short-term political considerations.

So essentially, the president now is not going to affect what the Federal Bank is working on, right?

Because they don't care about the president now.

They care about America in the future.

So what makes the Federal Reserve controversial?

So people don't think— I mean, on paper, it sounds fine.

On paper, it sounds fine.

But what makes it controversial?

Because people don't like it.

The millionaires run it.

Right.

It's a bank that's supposed to not have political sway, but most definitely has political sway.

Yeah.

Basically, the whole reason why people didn't— these guys that were on the Titanic kind of— you said that they didn't oppose it.

But I think the argument against having a Federal Reserve is that it has immense power over the US economy.

Because basically, what the Federal Reserve does is it sets your interest rates.

It like drives— it makes decisions based on people's money.

So why does one bank get to do that?

And that was the argument against, is that should people really have this much power to drive our economy, exactly.

So that was the opposition when they got on the Titanic, is like, should these millionaires be the ones that are creating this neutral, quote, neutral bank that drives our economy?

Because even in the past, I don't know, four years, the Federal Reserve, I mean, has increased interest rates.

I mean, it drives inflation.

So anyway, it's just criticized because of how much power it has.

And that's the idea is that these, you know, couple guys that got on the ship who were opposed to it, were saying that there should, these guys should not have that power.

So then let's talk about who is JP Morgan.

He is known as the Napoleon of Wall Street, which to me, I would be offended, because is he just small?

When I think Napoleon, I think small man energy.

Oh, well, isn't Napoleon, wasn't Napoleon like, he was like a, he was a general during the French Revolution.

And like, yeah, I know he was like a really good general, but all I know about him is that he was small.

Like, I don't think that's a good nickname.

But Napoleon, didn't he like, like win a lot of wars and territories?

Like, wasn't he like, he was really good at his job?

Wasn't that like, he created a empire.

Which I think is the intention of the nickname.

I'm just thinking of saying it's funny, because it's like, I feel like he's more known for being tiny.

I see what you're saying.

Well, fun fact, fun fact, he wasn't really that tiny.

Really?

How tiny was he?

He was five foot seven inches.

That's not that small.

And big boned.

Oh, so he had big hips?

No, he just sounded like he was a solid five seven.

Good for him.

So JP Morgan is a private banker.

He convened all of the quote, principal players, end quote, which I think is who you're talking about, Kait.

Like Rockefeller, all of the famous people we know as like Carnegie, like the famous millionaires that we know.

Vanderbilts.

Vanderbilts were his principal players for the push for the Federal Reserve, aka a bunch of rich guys.

And immediately following the 1907 bank panic, he had all of these men, it was men at the time, convene at his mansion and they had a private meeting in their mansion to plan for the group of millionaires to flood the system with their own money to prevent a depression.

So JP.

Morgan and all of these millionaires essentially stopped a depression from occurring in 1907.

So that's what really got him, other than being a well-known private banker, he also, quote, saved America.

In 1907.

In 1907, so he just had a lot of sway, like he literally saved America, not even, what is that, five years prior.

So I'm sure in his mind, he's like, I can, they should listen to me because I stopped a depression.

But there are people fighting him, the three men that I listed earlier.

But.

It's him and like a bunch of the other.

The principal players.

Yes, yeah.

So Vanderbilt, who and JP.

Morgan were also supposed to go on the Titanic and they pulled out at the last minute.

I didn't read anything about Vanderbilt when I was looking up this conspiracy.

It only talked about JP.

Morgan pulling out.

Well, Vanderbilt is part of it, too.

Vanderbilt was supposed to get on.

George Washington Vanderbilt II and his wife, Edith, had booked passage on the Titanic, but they changed their plans and sailed on the Olympic instead.

Interesting.

Suspicious.

You mean the real Titanic?

Yeah.

So all three men, Astor, Guggenheim, and Straus, had tickets to the Titanic.

Right.

But JP Morgan canceled his, allegedly, the night before takeoff due to, quote, an illness.

Okay?

Okay.

We're gonna get into that a little bit more.

But isn't JP Morgan also, wasn't he also part of the, like, the Titanic, the group?

So he owned the Titanic.

So he didn't own it directly.

He owned the International Mercantile Marine, which is kind of like the ship line that owns the Titanic.

Well, it's like, it's like the mother ship.

So it's like, you have the International Mercantile Marine, then branch from that, you have the White Star Line, and then branch from that, you have the Titanic and the Olympic.

So he did essentially, he did essentially own the Titanic, which is suspicious.

It's very suspicious.

Especially if you believe in the bait and switch theory too.

Exactly.

But none of us believed in that.

Did I say no again?

Not one of us believed in bait and switch.

Don't even remember.

So for JP Morgan's reservation, excuse me, on the Titanic, he booked a private room with a private promenade deck and personalized cigar holders, which I thought was interesting.

Must be nice to just have money to burn.

Right.

What's money?

Although I will say that when I was in Iceland, we could not figure out the conversion, and so we were just like, could be spent $100 on a candy bar.

Everything sounds cheap.

Could be a dollar, and I was just like, what is money?

Yes.

So let's talk about why JP Morgan canceled his reservation for the Titanic.

Is not as suspicious as people think it is.

First of all, he did not cancel it days before.

He canceled it weeks before.

Second of all, why did he cancel it?

It wasn't due to an illness.

It was because he was two different things.

He was hooking up with his mistress at a French spa, and trying to ship all of his French art out of France back to America.

So, at the time, France was creating a new law that impacted Americans selling and buying French art.

And so he had to get all of his art that he owned out of France before the law went into act.

Okay?

So he needed to go back to France that week.

That's why he canceled the Titanic.

It wasn't because he knew it was going to crash.

It's because he knew he had to get his investment in art out of France.

Sounds like a good cover story.

And we have proof that he had reservations at a French spa, but he booked massages.

The alibi was sick, and also then he's like, conveniently has to get all of his art out of France.

Well, conveniently, France was just passing a law that limited it though.

Like, I don't know.

You know what?

It's probably a good thing you did, because, you know, it might have ended up in the hands of the Nazis.

Yeah.

All of my facts regarding the French art comes from Don Lynch.

Do you know who Don Lynch is, Megan?

Because he was one of the main historians for the movie.

I don't know.

He's pretty famous in the Titanic world.

Oh, OK.

No, but you know, I was a Titanic girlie.

He was the one who cited the facts about the French law changes.

So another big reason why this conspiracy is probably false is everybody is like, who wants mass murder?

Yes.

Why would they kill all of those people?

And the likelihood of killing the three men you intended to kill?

Well, how many survivors were there?

Like a thousand?

Not even.

Yeah.

Fifteen hundred out of two thousand dead.

So like a little over five hundred.

Yeah.

Well, so that's, I guess, pretty good odds that you're going to take the first down.

I don't know.

That's what I have a hard time.

And now there are conspiracy theorists out there who would say that 9-11 was an inside job, in which thousands of innocent people were murdered.

But I like to be positive and believe that no one would be that sociopathic, that they would just kill especially the women and children who died.

Not that they're any more important than men, but it's just like, yeah, you're killing a lot of people, including young children.

Yeah.

And then another aspect was JP owned the Titanic, so why would he crash it?

But if you believe in the insurance switch, yeah, you would get the insurance money.

Right.

And then the three men he was allegedly targeting, Astor, Guggenheim and Straus, Astor and Guggenheim never publicly spoke out against the Federal Reserve.

They never spoke pro Federal Reserve, but we don't have any evidence that say they were anti.

Well, this is just like a stretch then.

Straus did publicly support the Federal Reserve.

And one of my resources is like an article where he's interviewed, specifically stating how much he enjoys, he's pro the Federal Reserve.

Okay, so that sounds like this is nonsense.

This is random, but another evidence against it was that Guggenheim bought his ticket days before.

He wasn't, JPMorgan never knew he was going to be on the ship until days before, so that was a lot of thing.

And the guys that were doing it, so Vanderbilt, who was one of them, was part of the beginning powers, the Federal Reserve, and JPMorgan, they both backed out of the Titanic, getting on the Titanic, which I think is suspicious.

Is it something that just, like, was it serendipity?

Did it just happen?

And then suddenly these two guys, I'm saying two, because you said the third one didn't oppose, never came out and opposed.

Well, publicly was pro.

And the other two never opposed.

Never publicly opposed.

Correct.

But were rumored to have opposed, right?

So the two guys, that's why I said two in the beginning.

It's all legend.

Yeah, it's all legend.

So the two guys who are allegedly opposed, they get on the ship, and suddenly it's, it's null and void.

And now they're, now all these guys are able to say like, okay, well, let's do this Federal Reserve.

Right.

Well, I think the other issue is that, well, one thing that I find interesting is that they wanted the Federal Reserve to stabilize the economy.

And then like not even 10 years later, or not even 20 years later, there was a massive depression.

Right.

And economy crashed.

That's what I was trying to get to.

Yeah.

I missed the days.

Right.

It's like not even, in 1920s, the economy crashed.

Right.

The first one, right?

Right.

So we have the Great Depression.

But also, how quickly can they build a Federal Reserve and make it function?

I think we should give them a little bit of credit there.

Like, I don't think 10 years, I guess, I don't know.

I don't think it had to do with the Titanic, is all that, like based on what I've read.

I tend to agree, I tend to agree that it, and I think this is an interesting conspiracy, because I think it provokes the thought of, like, should a group of millionaires in a, not in a neutral bank, quote neutral bank, be able to drive the economy?

That's, that's, so that's the most interesting thing to me apart about this conspiracy, is that yes, do I think the Titanic sank, like, deliberately?

Probably not.

Is it serendipity that these two guys that opposed the Federal Reserve got on a boat and died and kind of paved the path for a Federal Reserve to be established a year later in the United States?

Yeah, but would those two people have really made that big of an impact?

They weren't even politicians.

But I think they were really influential in the banking process.

You could argue they were lobbyists, right?

Well, one of them was mining, one of them was real estate.

But they were probably lobbyists who funded politicians.

But I don't think two would have made, I think it would have passed no matter what.

Well, I just was curious why Vanderbilt backed out, because you gave us a good explanation of why JP Morgan backed out.

Right.

He backed out because his family said, oh, maiden voyage, that's risky.

Oh, that's more suspicious.

No, that just sounds smart.

Yeah.

That's big brain.

Maiden voyage.

That's why they went on the Olympic.

Right.

Olympic was solid.

Right.

Maybe, allegedly.

I mean, it wasn't the maiden voyage.

There you go.

Arguably, JP Morgan owned the Olympic too.

Yeah.

But the bait and switch would say that...

It was the Titanic.

It was the actual Titanic.

Again, though, you...

I don't think that it was.

We finished that episode and you guys said, we don't believe this at all.

I can't wait to talk about Federal Reserve because I do believe that one.

No, and then I don't believe it at all.

Yeah.

I mean, like...

I think it's interesting to believe, though.

I think it's interesting to think that, like...

So how would they have done it?

They just told, like, the watchmen not to do anything?

Hey, you three go on it.

I honestly...

No, like, they knew when iceberg was going to be there, right there.

And 700 people lived.

How'd they know those three people weren't going to be part of the 700?

I mean, they didn't have enough lifeboats on the boat.

They never thought that...

And they were not filling them to capacity.

But, I mean, again, this Titanic...

I mean, are you guys alleging that it didn't hit an iceberg and sink?

No, I'm not saying that.

So, then, how did they strategically hit an iceberg?

Isn't it weird?

Like, isn't where they hit the iceberg like a weird place?

Well, I think what was weird about it is that they tried to turn.

And so, when they tried to turn, it, like, scraped the side.

And so, if they had just hit it head on, it wouldn't have sunk.

But they just would have been stalled.

Well, because they had those...

Didn't you watch the movie?

They had the waterproof compartment.

Yes, four of them.

Was it only four?

Well, if four, they could stay afloat with four.

But not five.

Not five, right.

Yes.

And so, if they had just hit it head on, like, the first one would have...

Filled.

But because they tried to turn, and they scraped the side of it, it, like, hit all the...

It hit all of them.

Yeah.

So, you think someone intentionally turned?

I mean, I don't know.

I just feel like the...

I just think they're...

The MO, I'm unclear on what the...

If someone said, let's take out this boat, we're just gonna have it happen to hit a glacier in the middle of the night.

I also think a millionaire would have looked at that boat and thought, investment, how many voyages can I get out of that boat?

Yeah.

How many poor people can I fit on the bottom layer?

All that money you put in.

Like...

Also...

I don't think they would have sunk it.

Also, though, I did see that the binoculars were locked up, and the person with the key to get the binoculars took the keys off of the...

Why were they locked up?

It's just binoculars.

There's a bunch of lower class people on that boat.

So they didn't have binoculars, but...

Would a binocular have made a difference?

Tip of the ice?

No, I guess.

I guess I'm just trying to think like a conspiracy theorist and be like, okay, did they intentionally not give them the...

But I'm still just not able to make this leap to like...

They hit an iceberg and that was all planned.

It's too far of a leap.

Yeah.

I'm still not buying it.

I just think it's an interesting concept.

But you don't...

I don't really believe it, let's be honest.

But, however, interesting concept.

Interesting concept that these guys got taken out.

The Federal Reserve, yeah.

If these people were like his financial rivals, could he not have just taken them out to...

Exactly.

He wasn't the one.

You know what I mean?

Why did it have to be the Federal Reserve?

Maybe it was just like business, but I don't believe any of this because I don't believe that they took out 1500 people just...

You're telling me he couldn't afford a Hitman?

As an alternative?

Yeah.

Maybe there was a Hitman on the boat and we'll never know.

Hold on.

No.

That I can't believe.

No, but Colleen makes a great point.

Instead of just wrecking this brand new overpriced boat and killing 1500 people, they're like in New York.

Yeah, why not?

Just get a mobster.

Why don't you just call them mob?

But of course it's not in New York at that point.

They were in New York.

It was all in England.

They were all in Europe.

But they're going back to America.

They're on their way to New York.

Let them get to New York and let someone just pew, pew.

Why don't you just call them mob?

This is the mob.

Mob was big at this time.

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Okay, well, that was really interesting, Kait and Colleen.

Thank you for sharing, for revisiting Titanic finally.

Yeah, I mean, I just am bummed that none of these Titanic conspiracies are really panning out.

I really thought they were, I wouldn't say I really thought they were gonna be some form of truth.

Yeah.

Are there any other Titanic conspiracy theories out there?

There's a conspiracy about the Titanic having something of a mummy's, like a mummy's object from Egypt.

Oh, it was a curse?

And cursed the ship.

That's cursing anything to do with the ship.

Okay.

I do like that one.

But then if they found out that they couldn't confirm if any part of the mummy was actually on the ship, it was all just alleged.

I don't know, that one felt like a stretch too.

They all felt like a stretch.

Do you know what I did learn when I was looking for trying to find a cocktail for a drink check?

When the ship went down, they were able to recover a bunch of the booze that was all crated up and they had like real fancy shamp's.

And because it was so high quality, they were able to consume it after rescuing it from the bottom of the ocean.

Really?

That's good for them.

That's great.

Yeah.

That's actually really cool.

They didn't implode.

Yeah, that's surprising.

Maybe they were like, were they floating?

They might have been floating.

Yeah.

Oh, maybe.

They were probably floating.

I don't know.

Don't dig deep.

I just know that I kept seeing that, that they were like, we were able to rescue booze and it was consumed because it was high quality.

I would have been excited too.

Yeah.

I bet it would be bobbing.

You're probably right.

It was buoyant.

Yeah.

Maybe when like the Carpathia showed up, they brought like the 700 plus people on and they were like, and we'll just grab this.

These crates that are floating.

Yeah.

I recognize that box.

That'll warm me.

A little bourbon to warm you up.

Maybe the people on the lifeboats were like...

Well, there is a guy who survived by just drinking whiskey and he survived for rescue, but then people online were like, but don't do that because that's not a good survival.

Doesn't alcohol lower your core temperature?

I think that's what he's saying.

Doesn't it like vasodilate you?

Yeah.

Because usually if we want to, you get cold, you vasoconstrict and it gets all, so all of the heat and blood is going to your vital organs.

Yeah.

I'm right.

Colleen, you were right.

Thank you.

But by vasodilation, you're not sending all that blood flow to your heart and your organs.

The only reason why I know that is because I always get terrified of drinking in the winter, like drinking outside in the winter because you never know how cold you are.

Well, I don't want to drink outside in the winter because I don't want to be outside hanging out socializing in the winter.

But like in college, going to parties and walking home, I was always afraid I was going to get frostbite because you can't feel it.

This is such an anxious trio right here.

That thought has never crossed my mind.

We were never at a house party and it was like single digits.

Well, first of all, I went to school in South Carolina, so no.

But also, I just feel like that would not have crossed my mind.

Since it's cold now, I probably shouldn't drink.

I'm going to freeze to death.

Every time I drink too much, I was like, I'm going to stop breathing.

No, I was always afraid of frostbite.

Now, if anything, I'd be like, it's so cold, I want to warm up because that's what I say.

No, but you don't know you're cold.

You get your beer coat on.

I get so hot.

I get so hot.

But you're actually not hot.

You get your beer coat on.

That's what I'm saying.

And that's what I try to do when I'm cold and I'm outside and there's like a social boozy scene.

Now, I would be like, yeah, I just need a little warm up from the inside, you know?

Yes.

That's why I don't understand.

When you drank in college, you worried about not breathing?

I have anxiety.

I worried about frostbite.

Also, not realistic.

You did that.

Yeah, what?

I know people who have frostbite or who have had frostbite.

I'm like, waiting for the bus to go to school, too.

Not even drunk.

They got frostbite because of waiting.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

Their toes?

Yeah, her toes in the snow.

Did she have holes in her shoes where her toes had popped through?

I'm sure she was not wearing appropriate shoes, but also the bus was late.

Kids never got frostbite in your school?

We also had three separate kids get hit by a car crossing the street to go to school.

Well, yeah, because we know everyone in Massachusetts is just drinkin and drivin and drinkin and drivin.

Okay, we'll see you guys next Tuesday.

See you next Tuesday.