The Origin of COVID-19 and it's Cover-Up

**Discussion begins at 4:50**

2020 will be a year that lives in infamy for our generation.  It is the year the workers were asked to stay home and children asked not to go to school.  It is the year that healthcare workers showing up to work in unprecedented times fighting a virus that they didn't know how to fight.  It is the year of "don't wear a mask and don't worry" to "wear a mask, wash your groceries, and oh my gosh - it could spread through your eyeballs".  It was a pivotal election year.  It was a year with protests and riots were rampant.  It is the year of fear, and hysteria, and TikTok popping off.  And all of that leads back to a pesky virus called SARS-COVID-2, or as people know it - COVID-19.  So where did this virus start?  Is there still controversy over the origin story?  What does the trail of money say?  And mostly, was the government just covering up a huge, colossal mistake?  Let's travel back in time to revisit the story of COVID-19.  Don't worry, no mask is required while listening to this podcast.  

Transcript

Hey, guys.

It's the 2SchemeQueens today.

Where's our third?

Well, she is doing, she's swimming with the dolphins.

I know.

Oh, on a cruise.

She's checking to see if they have opposable penises for us.

She's on a little birthday getaway.

Yeah.

Happy birthday.

What were you doing five years ago, Megan?

Do you know?

I do remember.

I was at a bar for happy hour with my friend.

We were sitting at the end of the bar, and the people next to us were talking about this wild virus that was coming.

And they were like, I hear they're going to shut down the schools.

And I was like, what are they talking about?

Yeah.

And that was the first I heard of it.

Okay.

Well, I was on a group chat with a couple of our friends.

And, you know, one of them was like, Stephanie.

She was like, this is really crazy what's going on in China.

This virus is so crazy.

And I had just listened to a podcast about the coronavirus.

And I was like, it's guys, it's no big deal.

It's going to be fine.

It's like a cold.

Flash forward.

We were not fine.

We were not.

We were not fine.

And the course of everybody's lives, I would say, especially the the health care.

Yes, the the way health care is run day to day.

Yeah, completely changed 100 percent.

Yeah.

So who knew that was going to be a once in a lifetime life altering event?

Yeah, I don't know.

Who knew?

Who could have known, Megan?

I don't know.

Maybe somebody could have known.

Okay.

Well, before we get into who could have known.

Okay.

Is it time for our drink check?

Drink check.

Oh, last weekend, we had a little birthday dinner for Colleen.

Yep.

Kait made a delicious pot roast.

It was so good.

So good.

Yeah.

And Kait had purchased these mini Corona bottles because Corona is Colleen's favorite beer.

They're like the perfect size for her.

Yes.

It was like the perfect find for Colleen.

And we said, you know.

It stays cold enough, long enough for her to drink it.

Yes.

And so we decided, you know, there's four left in this pack.

So we're drinking these as our drink check today.

Corona, or we're going to be talking about the coronavirus, the novel coronavirus.

Because there are a lot of coronaviruses.

Yes.

So yeah, I mean, I think it's been like 70 outside.

This is kind of nice and refreshing, you know.

It's like a preview of summer, if you know.

It's like not quite hot enough.

Yeah.

And I don't want to commit to like an IPA or real beer, so like a watered down beer.

Yeah.

But you got to have a lime in it.

For sure.

These have limes in these.

I would never serve you Corona without a lime in it.

Exactly.

It's like a blue moon has to have an orange.

Yeah.

A Corona has to have a lime.

Correct.

And it's Corona Extra, to be clear.

Yeah.

We don't do no light shit, okay?

Maybe Colleen.

Right.

Right.

Or Kait in college, Mike Ultra.

So these are fine, but you know what?

They're appropriate for our theme.

And I just know that if Colleen were here, she would be in heaven.

Oh my gosh.

This would be Colleen's favorite drink trick.

Yes.

Yeah.

Besides a Diet Coke.

Yeah.

Right.

All right.

Mini Diet Coke, though.

Yes.

I now stock her, because she can't finish the whole 12-ounce can.

Yeah.

So I have to stock her the little...

Was it like an 8-ounce can?

Yeah.

Tiny.

Yeah.

But it's the perfect size for her.

Okay.

So, Megan, we are, guys, I just want to preface, we are talking about COVID.

We have, this has gone, we've gone back and forth.

Do we do this?

Do we not do this?

I have been pushing to do COVID.

And there's lots of conspiracy theories around COVID.

I'm going to talk about where COVID began specifically.

Okay.

We're not going to talk about, like, there's other conspiracies, like the, quote, plandemic or, like, there's all these conspiracies around the vaccine and all of those things.

We are not talking about those things.

Those are way too controversial.

You may have your opinion already about it.

We also have ours.

And those are things that we just don't, we don't think should be spoken about on the podcast.

Yeah, I think we've said this in the past, but in case you just found us, and it's like the first episode, you know, we are health care providers.

We lived through COVID.

We saw people dying, people close to us who work in health care, who are more in it, right?

Like our colleagues, like in the medical ICUs, the nurses, the providers, the respiratory therapists.

Obviously, a lot of people had family who died.

It was like a horrific time.

And so we have all the respect for those people.

We believe COVID was real.

We are not saying that the whole thing was fake.

Again, we saw it.

But yeah, I think a lot of lies being told to us back then that are slowly coming out.

Right, right.

So that's sort of like the story that we're telling this time.

Like Megan said, we were health care workers.

There is no doubt in our mind when they had to put up a second morgue outside of our hospital, that COVID was a real thing.

We are not talking about COVID as a hoax.

That is absolutely false.

We lived through it.

We did it.

It was terrible.

Health care has not been the same since.

So that's our disclaimer when we're talking about COVID.

And we don't want to talk about any of the other conspiracies along with it.

Whether or not you're vaxxed, whether or not you aren't, that's up to you.

That's your decision.

We have our opinions.

So with that all said, let us begin.

Okay.

All right.

So 2020 will be a year that lives in infamy for the rest of our generation.

It is the year that workers were asked to stay home, children asked not to go to school.

It is the year that health care workers were heroes, showing up to work in unprecedented times, fighting a virus that they didn't know how to fight.

It is the year of, don't wear a mask, don't worry, to wear a mask and wash your groceries, and oh my gosh, it could spread through your eyeballs.

It was a pivotal election year.

It was a year where protests and riots were rampant.

It is the year of fear and hysteria and TikTok popping off.

And all of that leads back to a little pesky virus named SARS-CoV-2, or as people know it, COVID-19.

Where did this virus start?

Is there still controversy over the origin story?

What does the Trail of Money say?

As you know, we like to follow the money.

That's right, follow the money here.

And mostly, was the government just covering up a huge, colossal mistake?

Let's travel back in time to revisit the story of COVID-19.

And don't worry, no, no mask is required while listening to this podcast.

Nerd alert.

So I have to be honest, I can't wait to hear what you're gonna teach me here.

I didn't really realize that it was like a big secret that this came from a lab, okay?

Like, I feel like all along I've been like, yeah, this was probably mishandled in the lab, much like Lyme disease, Plum Island, okay?

And I think we're finally seeing some investigations coming out proving that, which I was like, oh, I didn't know this wasn't like an understood fact.

But that's about all I've got on the origin.

So I can't wait for you to fill me in on that.

Talk about it?

Yes.

Okay.

So I'm gonna walk you back through the timeline.

And I'm gonna tell you, when I was going through the timeline, this is from the CDC's website.

I was in full on like fight or flight.

I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm reliving this.

It's just bringing back so many vivid memories of that year, which is just a weird year.

You look back and you're like, oh my gosh.

I felt like that when all of the TV shows, Grey's Anatomy had the COVID storyline.

I was like, oh my gosh, we walk out our doors and we live the, not even help everyone walks out their doors and you're living this.

And I don't need to check out on my couch with TV on.

No.

Relive it on TV.

I don't need to watch somebody gown up when I gowned up so much, like wild.

And in fact, you mentioned in your intro about the protest and the violence and everything that kind of happened around this time.

And I was living in DC and it was giving me straight up flashbacks to Afghanistan, to like a legitimate war zone that I was in.

That's how DC felt.

It was just like crowd dispersal, you know, noise nonstop and yelling and anyway.

And I was like, it's time for me to GTFO out of this city.

Right.

Yeah.

And that's really what got me slightly more into the burbs.

Yeah.

But yeah, tell us about it.

And hopefully I won't be re-traumatized as well.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

So December 12th, 2019, a handful of individuals started experiencing fever and atypical pneumonia that emerged in China.

December 31st, 2019, China informs the WHO, World Health Organization, of several cases of severe acute pneumonia with unknown origin.

Symptomology includes shortness of breath and fever.

January 7th, 2020, scientists in China confirmed that the virus is a coronavirus.

January 11th, 2020, China reports the first death due to SARS-CoV-2.

SARS-CoV-2 at this point is being called the novel coronavirus.

That's sort of like what the media starts talking about, and it didn't actually come out as like COVID-19 until later we started calling that.

January 14th, 2020, the first laboratory test confirms SARS-CoV-2 outside of China in Thailand.

January 15th, Japan confirms their first case.

January 17th, CDC begins screening individuals who have traveled through Wuhan to America.

So in LA, San Francisco, New York City, which are the places that got hit pretty hard.

Yeah.

When you're saying these are the first reported cases, do we think they were the first cases?

No.

Okay.

January 20th, 2020, the US has now reported their first case of COVID-19.

January 31st, a nationwide travel ban has been placed on all non-American citizens who have been in China within the last 14 days.

Is this not like giving you, this is like, it's so triggering saying these things.

February 11th, 2020, who announces the official name of the disease that's causing the 2019 novel coronavirus outbreak, which is COVID-19.

March 11th, more than 118,000 cases in 114 countries and 4,291 deaths caused by COVID-19.

And the WHO officially declares COVID-19 a pandemic.

March 13th, the Trump administration declares a national emergency and issues a travel ban on 24 European countries and the first day at home order for the next two weeks to try to get ahead of the spreading virus.

So flatten the curve, flatten the curve.

We are officially today recording this podcast five years from the first day at home order.

So by the time you all are listening to this, five years ago today, you guys were locking down.

We were locking down.

I got to be honest that I think if it had just been two weeks, it could have been kind of nice.

I feel like we rediscovered Zoom.

We were zooming happy hours, zooming book clubs.

We had our little pods or buddies that we were quarantined with it.

We were like, we can see this family and that's it.

Then yeah, but then it didn't just last two weeks.

No.

I remember in the hospital specifically, like there was a lot of like, okay, we're locked down.

Yeah, all the elective cases were like canceled.

They were basically saying, don't come to the hospital unless you really have to come to the hospital.

And it was just crazy.

Well, and then I feel like when we were seeing the patients who did come in, even those who didn't have COVID, they were so much sicker because they had been told to like avoid the ER.

And they weren't going to their doctors.

They weren't, yeah.

And so they'd be like, well, I've been feeling lousy for a week, but I didn't want to get COVID.

Right.

So I didn't come in.

And I also in the midst of this little two week lockdown, yeah, my all of my colleagues either got COVID.

That was like before, really, we hadn't even had patients yet, right?

But all of my colleagues got it.

I was the only one the Department of Health would allow to work.

So that was super fun for me for that week.

Yeah, it was it was crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah, we had actually we always joke that one of our coworkers was like patient zero at our hospital.

She got it from the grocery store.

Yeah, there was like a right down the street, the Whole Foods.

And then they had to put our hospital in diversion, the staff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was just it's again, you like I think everyone has like different experiences in the pandemic and there's a lot of people that I talked to are like, yeah, it was wild.

My kids didn't go to school and my husband and I just had to stay at home and like work from home and we didn't see anyone for a year.

And it's like I for honestly like I'm glad that I had to go to work because I didn't have to stay home.

And like, I think that actually saved part of my sanity.

I agree.

I think everything at work again was like twice as hard.

But yes, I think I look back and I'm like, if I living by myself didn't have any social interaction, like work with my social interaction, right?

Otherwise, yeah, I would have gone crazy.

Right.

Oh, and we have to tell the story about Colleen.

I wish she was here so she could.

So Colleen used to live with her aunt, you know this, right?

Her aunt lived 20 minutes from the hospital.

Our co-worker, again, this is the time where everyone was so panicked.

If you knew somebody who had an exposure, you were staying home for 14 days because you weren't sure if you were going to get the virus.

And so Colleen had an exposure from our co-worker, and she called her aunt on the way home.

And her aunt kicked her out.

Oh, but I don't even think, yeah, her aunt said, you better find somewhere else to stay.

Right.

So now she's in her car, like, trying to find somewhere else to stay.

Right.

Having a full-on men TB.

Yeah.

And she ended up in this, like, room that she rented in a house, and it's just, you know, you know, she temporarily had to do her dishes in the in the bath tub.

Yeah.

Daniel the German in the basement.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, so she has this whole story.

But yeah, for the first two weeks of the pandemic, Colleen was homeless, trying to find a place, trying to take care of patients, health care heroes, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was our first couple of weeks.

Just wild.

But then it didn't end.

Huh?

No, it just kept going.

And I remember 2020 being over in 2021, like New Year's Eve, and just being like, nothing's gonna change.

It was just awful.

Anyway, so Megan, what are your thoughts about Dr.

Fauci?

Let's talk about 2020 thoughts.

What did you think of 2020?

Okay, so 2020, I thought this man is a hero.

I was just like, this guy is looking out for all of our health.

He's such a smart guy, works for the NIH.

He's got decades of experience.

I didn't think, again, I don't think his thought of flatten the curve so the ERs don't get overwhelmed in these first two weeks was unreasonable.

Yes, my 2020 opinion of him was very different from my opinion of him today.

Right, and I want to talk about the flatten the curve thing too, because there was all these like, we didn't have the resources for a pandemic.

So that was another thing.

They wanted to get the manufacturing up and running.

But even still, like when when New York was like so overwhelmed, these patients that had breathing tubes had no sedation because there were just there was just none.

Or like these community hospitals, we our hospital was like, we never ran out of masks.

Yes, we were given our one N95 and we're told, don't lose it.

Here's your paper bag.

Yes, put it in a brown paper lunch bag, and you just carry it around with you everywhere.

And you had everyone had these like wrinkled up.

Right.

Bags.

Yeah.

Right.

And then like once a month, you were allowed to trade it in for a fresh one.

Right.

Exactly.

And then ours never actually got like there were some hospitals that were like reusing theirs.

Like they would go through like UV light.

And then they were being reused.

And like we never we got to throw ours out.

We never had trash bags.

Right.

We never had trash bags.

Yeah.

I think hearing people at other hospitals, I think as far as we have to wear like cloth masks and like my mom was so in so in the cloth.

That's fine.

Yes.

So yeah, just like wild.

So yeah, so the flat and the curve wasn't the first two weeks.

Not a bad idea.

Let's give our health care workers time to get resources to get us to the place where we're actually prepared for this pandemic.

And that's sort of like, but then it just kept going on and on and the anxiety and the mental health.

Like, oh my gosh.

OK, so let me give you a little.

So yeah, my thoughts on 2020 Fauci is just like, Dr.

Fauci, I was like, saying he's my hero, like, he's so smart, kind of like Megan said, like, I can't believe anyone's like criticizing him, especially in 2021.

There's a lot of criticism and like, oh, he's just getting his like five minutes of fame.

And I'm just like, and I think as a health care worker, you were like, really like personally taking offense to everything, because we were like in the trenches.

And like, we went from 2020 health care heroes to 2021 health care zeros.

And it was like, everyone else was out living our lives, and we were still in hell.

That's how COVID, that's how 2021 was in the hospital.

I don't know that people are really outliving their lives, but I will say that I know like 2021 into 2022, when people started complaining that they had to go back to work, and they were so terrified about getting the virus.

And I was like, some of us have been in it for over a year.

And then to hear people being like, oh my gosh, I can't believe they're making me go back to the office where I could get COVID.

That was like...

And you're like, wait, I'm actually up in this patient's mucus.

Like, yeah.

So okay, so let me tell you about Dr.

Fauci.

So Dr.

Anthony Fauci attended undergrad at the College of Holy Cross, and he attended medical school at Cornell University, where in 1966, he graduated with his medical degree in internal adult medicine, focusing on immunology and infectious disease.

He served as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease from 1984 to 2002.

In 2021, he was appointed Chief Medical Advisor by President Joe Biden until he retired a year later.

He has been cited in many medical and scientific journals, and in 2008, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George W.

Bush for his work on the United States President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief.

This is also known as PEPFAR.

And this program sort of helped fund, helped add global funding for the HIV and AIDS epidemic, as well as offer help in preventing severe complications or death for those suffering from the disease.

But we just kind of know him as like the pandemic guy.

The face of COVID.

Yeah.

That guy with the little guy with the Jersey accent.

Yeah.

Jersey or New York?

It's like a New York City accent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's talk about where COVID came from.

Okay.

Let's talk about it.

Do you remember what they started telling us at the beginning of the pandemic?

Yeah.

I remember them saying it came from the, again, I do remember initially them saying him from a wet market.

Right.

So in the beginning, there was all this like news articles and everything like that, that it came from a wet market, which the wet market in China is like...

It's like a fish market?

It's like a market you can go and get like meat from.

And it's like not regulated.

Like this kind of stuff that comes from the wet market is like questionable of best, right?

This is where you get cats.

Stop it.

Are you serious?

Cat meat.

Oh, my God.

Dog meat.

What about the bats?

Because the bats were a story at one point.

Well, that was the thing.

That came later.

They're telling everybody that the bats, the bats are where the COVID came from.

Wait, bats gave it to the animals in the wet market?

No, that somebody ate a bat.

Because they're eating cats, why wouldn't they eat bats?

Right.

Because the first SARS, before there was COVID, there was SARS.

SARS was like this pandemic.

It was an epidemic.

It never became a pandemic, but it came basically from this like raccoon looking animal.

I don't know the actual name of it.

I didn't write it down.

Oh, but no, I do remember this because like, is it a pangalaw?

Is that right?

Pangalaw.

Hold on.

Let me fact check that.

Pangolin.

The pangolin.

Yeah, it looks like a rabid cat raccoon.

It's like a raccoon that's scaly.

Yeah.

So SARS is like, SARS basically was kind of like the same virus where it makes you, it's a respiratory illness that basically makes you get pulmonary edema and basically suffocate and die.

It's how COVID, people were dying from COVID.

Not just pulmonary edema, but respiratory failure and all that acute respiratory.

A massive inflammatory response.

Yeah.

And so then there was MERS, and MERS was not in China, it was in the Middle East, and it was another coronavirus, and that had jumped from animal to human.

And so anyway, but again, contained, did not spread like COVID spread.

So that was like the first sort of thought.

This is what they're telling the public.

But let me let me let you in on this little secret.

I'm going to introduce to you another player in the game.

Okay?

Okay.

Okay.

This is Dr.

Robert Redfield, and he is the director of the CDC at the time in 2020.

He's an American virologist who served as the 18th director at the CDC and the administrator of agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry from 2018 to 2021.

He attended Georgetown University.

Oh, Georgetown.

Hoya Saxa.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And he also worked in Columbia at the Columbia University in New York City.

Labs where investigations focused on the involvement of retroviruses in human disease.

So he earned both his bachelor and his doctorate at the School of Medicine in Georgetown.

So we love, we love it.

Yeah.

Anyway, he did his medical residency.

We love this also at Walter Reed.

Yeah, I know he's part of the Army.

We love it.

He did his internship in internal medicine and he then he became a US Army officer.

He can he completed his fellowship at Walter Reed in infectious disease and tropical medicine.

So we can say that this guy sounds like he knows infectious diseases, right?

Kind of feeling like the head of the CDC, who's an expert in viruses.

Why did we not see his face?

Exactly.

Kind of weird, right?

Right.

Right.

He also was in the US Army.

He also worked for a decade in virology, immunology, and clinical research.

Okay.

Please tell me what does this man have to say about COVID?

Yes.

So this guy gets a call December 31st, 2019.

2019.

2019 from the CDC director in China, Dr.

Gao Gao.

And the guy says, Listen, Dr.

Redfield, I've got 27 cases of this unspecified pneumonia, and I think it's coming from the wet market.

Okay.

So Dr.

Gao says this to him.

He's like, okay, that's weird.

Hangs up the phone, thinks it's strange, follows pretty closely.

A couple of days later, he gets another phone call from this guy, same guy, Dr.

Gao.

And he's like, you know, now I have hundreds of cases of this atypical pneumonia that we don't know what's causing it, and I don't think it's actually coming from the wet markets.

So this is January.

This is January of 2020.

Okay.

So, head of the CDC, Dr.

Redfield, gets off the phone, makes a call to the National Security Council.

Second phone call he makes to Dr.

Fauci.

And he says to Dr.

Fauci, he shares this concern, and this is the reason why Dr.

Gao was saying, I don't think this is coming from the wet market, because the virus is spreading so quickly.

And like I said about MERS and SARS-1, it couldn't figure out how to transmit in between humans.

Yeah, I heard this.

It takes a lot of time to change.

Yes.

So, of course, animal to animal or whatever, it takes a much longer time to adapt to then be able to infect humans.

Exactly, which is why they were so contained, because it really, as long as you quarantine those people, it would die, because it couldn't figure out how to jump from human to human.

But COVID was too intelligent.

So it started.

Yeah, interesting, right?

Yeah.

So he goes to Tony, Dr.

Fauci, and he says, yo, Tony, I think we really need to look at this, because this is really interesting.

I think this could probably be a virus from the lab, and we need to look into it.

From the, like, he knew Wuhan lab immediately.

No, I think he just knew, he knew that it was like bioengineering.

It was probably manmade.

Right.

Okay.

And Dr.

Fauci, who is a man of science, who is quoted to have said, are you ready for it?

Oh, this might be the line that triggers me.

Is this the, an attack on science is an attack on me?

Exactly.

Which I will say, the ego.

The ego.

Yes.

You guys can pull this up.

I think he says an attack on me is an attack on science, but he somehow, he's somehow...

Yeah, fact check me.

What did he say?

Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science.

Yeah.

Okay.

Which to me, I'm sorry.

You're equivalent.

You're equivalent?

Yeah, you're equivalent to science?

Yeah.

My guy.

I mean, that's in retrospect now, it feels like a way to, yeah, to be, I mean, I feel like this was very politicized, right?

But it feels like a way to be like, shut up and don't question me.

Right.

Because if you're questioning me, you're questioning science.

And science is always right.

Yes.

Which we believe that we love science.

Right.

Science is right, but you also should always question science, right?

Because that's the whole point of research.

Yes.

Everything in science is questioned.

We peer review everything.

Right.

Everything has to go through a rigorous, yes.

Right.

Trialism.

Yeah.

So again, Dr.

Redfield finds it interesting because Dr.

Fauci just is like, no, it clearly can't be bioengineered.

This is definitely coming from the wet market.

And Dr.

Redfield is like, hold on a second.

You're a man of science, and it is weird, strange that you're only considering one hypothesis.

You're not even questioning this.

Yeah.

And you're not even considering all of the things that could actually happen.

Okay.

So again, so Dr.

Redfield argues that this novel virus could actually have come from gain-of-function research.

Gain-of-function.

This is taking me back to Plum Island.

Megan, what is gain-of-function?

So gain-of-function is when you take something that already exists, you take a virus that already exists, and you want to find a way to make it function in other ways.

So we think about this a lot with like engineering bioweapons.

And I think, and we talked a lot about this in our Plum Island episode.

I think the example we talked about with the gain-of-function then was like how we had the Borrelia bacteria and they were able to develop it into Lyme disease and inject it into ticks to make it a tick-porn illness that you could potentially use as warfare bioweapon.

That's my gain-of-function is trying to take this virus that already exists, but manipulating it in a way to give it a different use.

So that could be like a vaccine, like it could be for the benefit of people.

It could be bioweapon, whatever.

The Board of Life Sciences.

No, that was a perfect way to explain it.

I'm going to give you an I.

Yeah, I'll give you guys the definition.

So Board of Life Sciences, and the potential risks and benefits of gain-of-function research, the summary of a workshop, they describe gain-of-function as, routine virological methods involving experiments that aim to produce a gain of a desired function, such as a higher yields for vaccine strains, but often also lead to loss of function, such as loss of the ability for a virus to replicate well as a consequence.

In other words, any selection process involving an alteration of genotypes and the resulting phenotypes is considered a type of gain-of-function research.

Genotypes for people who aren't science nerds, you know?

That is like how your gene expresses or your gene looks.

So if you, any type of, you can look at DNA and each of your DNA has codes on it.

Like a sequence of codes.

A sequence of codes, right, exactly.

And so that is like what we talk about when we talk about a genotype.

We have genotypes as humans.

Anything, any type of organism has a specific genotype, right?

And you can look at that genotype again.

You can kind of figure out where that gene is, what kind of organism that's coming from.

And then phenotype, when we talk about phenotypes, that's how the genes express themselves.

So that's like, I have a gene for brown hair, therefore I have brown hair.

That's like the basic of phenotype.

This is taking me back to AP bio.

Yeah.

Maybe not even AP bio, maybe like eighth grade bio.

But when you're talking about a virus, let's talk very simply.

The flu virus, the influenza virus.

The influenza virus has a very specific genotype.

When you get infected with the genotype, we know how the virus is going to work.

We know the phenotype of how it's going to express itself.

You're going to get body aches, fever, chills.

This is something that we see.

Maybe cough, runny nose.

This is classic flu symptoms, right?

This is how we all, you know, this is how we know what the flu looks like.

So when you're talking about viruses, that's what you're talking about.

There's a genotype of the virus and then how it expresses itself, aka the symptomology of the virus, and that would be your phenotype.

Okay.

Makes sense?

Yep.

Okay.

So, and we do know that the government had been working with gain-of-function.

Yeah.

We can go back and listen to our Plum Island, right?

Yeah.

That was America.

Yeah.

You know who loves gain-of-function research?

Tony.

Tony the Taiga.

Dr.

Fauci loves gain-of-function research.

And Redfield, Dr.

Redfield, the head of the CDC, claims that Fauci believed that the best way to predict the next pandemic was by creating it.

That sounds a little sinister, don't you think?

It gives me, again, the ego.

Exactly.

The ego to be like, okay, I get it.

My goal is a positive thing.

My goal is to try to, let's create a virus so that we can prevent it from becoming a pandemic later.

But like, I'm going to have total control of this unknown virus.

Right.

I don't, yeah, I just.

The god complex that you have to have.

Yes.

The delusions of grandeur.

Grandiosity.

Yeah.

I can create something that's so deadly.

But if I create it, then I can control it.

My guy.

No, you can't.

As evidenced by.

The pandemic we experienced.

The pandemic.

Okay.

Let me give you another player.

Okay.

Dr.

Richard Ebright.

Richard Ebright is an American molecular biologist.

He has nothing to do with the CDC.

He was never in the CDC.

He's just.

Just.

Quote.

On the board of governors and the professor of chemistry and chemical biology at the Red Cross University.

He also is the director of the Waxman Institute of Microbiology.

Okay.

So microbiology.

They're studying diseases there.

They're studying things on a micro level.

And then he was also co-appointed the investigator of Howard Hughes Medical Institute from 1997 to 2013.

So this guy's also pretty smart, right?

Say Howard Hughes?

Like the crazy billionaire?

Yeah.

That's weird.

Yeah.

Okay.

He basically said at the very beginning, so he's pretty much like, he and Tony Fauci basically don't like each other.

They've never liked each other.

Whereas Dr.

Redfield and Tony work together on their AIDS project.

If you want to go back, like I said, George W.

Bush awarded Tony Fauci on his work with AIDS and funding AIDS and the research involved with it.

Dr.

Redfield and Dr.

Fauci were like buddies.

They were colleagues.

They worked closely together.

Dr.

Ebright?

Not so much.

Not a fan of Fauci.

From the very beginning.

Is he a fan of?

Redfield?

No beef there.

No beef with Redfield, but beef with Fauci?

Beef with Fauci.

Because he's basically saying that, you know, from the beginning, it is obvious that the virus was bioengineered and that it is crazy that we are going and that the public is being told that, like, it came from a bat and it jumped from animal to human, and it's just so smart that it can replicate in humans.

So again, he accuses Dr.

Fauci for lying to the public and then also continuing to deny that there has been, like, gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

So this is sort of like, I'm sort of getting ahead of myself, but I want you guys to know that these are, like, people that were coming out in the beginning that were saying, like, this is not, this doesn't make sense.

From the start, we have other experts in this area who are saying this was definitely made in a lab, manufactured somehow, manmade.

Manmade, manufactured, right.

Gain-of-function research, something like that.

How did Fauci just become, like, the face of COVID?

Oh, I'm so glad you asked.

I'm so glad you asked.

There was a press conference where, actually, Dr.

Redfield does speak to it, or speak in it, and there is a, and he kind of, like, gives his spiel, and then steps back, and then someone from the media asks, like, well, where do you think it came from?

And Tony just steps up to the mic and starts talking about how it's jumped from animal to human.

And then suddenly, he becomes the face of the pandemic.

Wow.

And Dr.

Redfield, you know, talks about it later.

In one of his interviews, he says, like, it's just, now I'm looking back on it, and it just seems so weird.

Like, you would think that the director of the CDC should be answering these questions, but Dr.

Fauci wasn't even, he was just, not just, I mean, it is a big deal to be the director of, like, the virologist and immunology in the NIH.

Yeah, we'll be, like, the highest paid government employee or something.

Right.

But yeah, I would think CDC.

Right.

That's our guy.

Exactly.

Okay.

I want to introduce another player, Christian Anderson.

Christian Anderson is this Danish evolutionary biologist, and he works at the Department of Immunology and Microbiology at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California.

Okay.

He obtained his bachelor's in molecular biology at our house university, and then he went and got his PhD in immunology at the University of Cambridge.

So he worked pretty closely with Ebola during the Western African Ebola virus epidemic, which was in 2014.

Yeah.

I don't know if you remember that.

I remember that.

I do remember that because I was on the Ebola team.

Oh, yeah.

We had a different, there was sort of like an old unit that wasn't really being used, and they converted it to like the Ebola unit, and they had a handful of health care workers who they were going to, were going to like run, volunteered to work this unit.

And I think we got one patient who was a false alarm.

Right.

So, yeah, but I do remember, but I do remember the panic around it, like that it's coming.

And yeah, I mean, I remember going through COVID and thinking about Ebola and like I was like, I would still panic more about Ebola than COVID.

Like, I was just like Ebola is scary.

But like bleeding from every orifice is scary?

Yeah, it kills you in like a week.

But yeah, so I mean, I did a project on Ebola in third grade and I'll never forget you like start with a sore throat.

And I went to bed that night and I had a sore throat and I was like, oh my gosh, do I have Ebola?

And then it was then they should have started doing SSRI.

Yeah, I was like, wait.

So yeah, Ebola has been like traumatic for me ever since third grade.

So in 2014, when this like pandemic happened and they were like, it could come to America.

And then like we got all hospital trained for it.

Like because yeah, and there were like a couple cases.

If you had a couple, there was the nurse from Texas, right?

And she was transferred to NIH, yeah, and was treated.

She was fine.

I think I did see there was some clip where Tony got all gowned up for a photo op with her or something.

Yeah, and he never took care of her.

Yeah, he just brought a cameraman in there with him.

Yeah, yeah, real, real hero there.

And it's all the hindsight, you know?

Right.

Also Anderson did some work with Zika.

Remember Zika?

Oh, God.

But I do know that Zika, I was pregnant with Patch when Zika was happening, and it was like all this like, you know, drama around it.

And and Burba Boy had to go to, I don't know, he was traveling a lot, and he went somewhere that was like a hot spot.

And I was 30 weeks pregnant, and they were like, no sex until after the baby's born.

Also, I mean, at 30 weeks, the brain's mostly formed, right?

Yeah, but then I...

Isn't Zika like giving you, doesn't it give you little heads?

Yeah, it was giving you, yeah, micro, what was it called?

Yeah, microencephalopathy.

Yeah, microencephalopathy.

Yeah, I think you're right.

Microcephaly.

Yeah, microcephaly.

I took that back to one of the infectious disease doctors at our hospital, and he was like, oh, this is really interesting question.

Let me look this up for you.

And so he did, and he got back to me, and he was like, yeah, wrap it up.

So yeah, just Christian Anderson.

Remember that name.

Okay.

So let's go back to January 11th, 2020.

Okay.

This is when China released SARS-CoV-2 as the genome for it.

They actually had the sequence of the virus.

Okay.

And they were looking at the virus, and they're like, okay, this is really interesting.

There's one part of the virus that actually stood out to them.

And they were comparing it before they came out of SARS-CoV-2.

They identified the virus as a coronavirus.

And there are lots of different strands of coronaviruses.

You guys can get coronaviruses, and it's just a cold.

It's called a cold.

Yeah.

Which is kind of funny because I can't remember, this had nothing to do with my research, but it was theorized that the next pandemic would be a coronavirus before all of this happened.

I don't know, I forget where I heard that, but you know that it was the Spanish flu in 1914.

So anyway, so someone had theorized this.

So they're looking at it, and they're comparing this genomic sequence to other coronaviruses, and they find this really interesting sequence, and the sequence is P-R-R-A.

And that's, they figured out that this sequence is, was on like, it's called a furan cleavage site.

And this furan cleavage site was on one of the spikes.

Coronaviruses, they are called coronaviruses because they have these spikes around them that look like a crown, corona crown.

So these spikes actually like attach to, cause you guys know that, well, I don't know if you know this, but a virus can't live without a host.

So it attaches itself to a human cell or whatever, you know, like a dog cell or whatever.

And it dispenses its DNA into the cell, forces the cell to replicate, and then that's how it replicates in humans.

Yeah, and like the spikes are like the cleavage that you're talking about.

That's what makes it so infectious.

Exactly.

So easily transmissible.

Right.

So this is something that they're like, wait a second.

What's this doing here?

What is this right here?

And at this point, like all the virologists in that are looking at this is like, okay, this is suspicious, and this definitely looks like it was put here on purpose.

Human manipulation.

Exactly.

Okay.

Fast forward to February 1st, 2020.

There's a conference call with the world's top scientist.

Dr.

Fauci calls it.

But guess who's left out?

Our boy, Dr.

Redfield?

Uh-huh.

The director of CDC is left off the Zoom call.

Well, who's on the Zoom call?

Christian Anderson was on it.

One of the scientists was Christian Anderson, who was on it.

But it was a lot of bigwigs.

A lot of bigwigs.

So all the bigwigs except the biggest bigwigs.

Except the biggest of wigs.

Yes.

The director of the CDC is not on the Zoom call.

What happened on the Zoom call?

Well, it's funny you asked that, Megan, because people don't really know what happened on the Zoom call, but they were able to pull up the chat.

Okay.

And do you know what the chat said?

What did the chat say?

One of the guys on it said, this is a big ask.

Okay.

Basically, let's see if we can do this.

This is a big ask.

We don't know what that big ask is.

Gosh.

Okay.

Cover it up.

Is that the big ask?

I don't know because you know what?

A week after this, floods of scientific papers come out.

Oh my gosh.

Saying that the coronavirus, the novel coronavirus, definitely had nothing to do with a lab, and then it definitely came from bats.

So we have all these brilliant people saying, we're looking at the genotype, this is definitely made in a lab.

But now we have a big ask and a ton of papers saying, no, it came from a bat.

And even better.

What would be their motivation?

Oh, I don't know.

That's a great question, Megan.

I think we'll get to that later.

Okay, I'll hold my thought.

I'm gonna read to you some of these papers.

Ready?

Oh, this isn't even a week after.

February 3rd, 2020, a paper's published.

A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin.

Article states, quote, since the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, SARS, 18 years ago, a large number of SARS-related coronaviruses have been discovered in their natural reservoir host, bats.

Previous studies have shown that some bat, SARS-R-COVS, which is not SARS-COV-2, this is SARS-COV-1, have the potential to infect humans.

It then goes on to say, quote, it appears that most of the early cases had contact history with original seafood market.

However, the disease has not progressed to be transmitted by human-to-human contact, original SARS-COV-1.

And then it goes on to say that COVID-19 actually did come from an original seafood market or a wet market, and most importantly, strict regulations against the domestication and consumption of wildlife should be implemented.

So that's the first article that comes out saying, let's regulate what's going on in these wet markets, which actually is not a bad...

No, I mean, there should be some regulation, but this is before March.

We haven't even locked down yet, and already we're getting propagandized.

March 17th, which is right after the lockdown.

March 17th, 2020, Christian Anderson on the Zoom call appears in a Medical Journal article.

Quote, although the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus, it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here.

However, since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, and related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.

End quote.

Are these like letters to the editor?

I mean, these aren't like real studies.

These are real studies that I have linked with the whole DOI.

Oh my gosh.

And they were like peer-reviewed then?

Peer-reviewed medical journals.

And when you open them, the facts and figures are empty.

Oh my god.

So even when they published these, they were like incomplete.

Exactly.

Sounds like opinion pieces maybe that they were like pushing off as...

Yes.

And you want to talk about opinion pieces?

That article came out March 17th, 2020.

March 7th, so 10 days earlier 2020, a Lancet article, which is a big...

Lancet, yeah, that's a good one...

.

big medical journal.

Quote, the rapid, open and transmitted sharing of data on this outbreak is now being threatened by rumors and misinformation around its origins.

We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin, end quote.

So they're just getting in front of it.

They are...

The virus is not even here, and if you don't believe the party line, then you're just a crazy conspiracist.

Exactly.

Which is what people tell us all the time.

Right.

Let's go back.

Christian Anderson, he was actually consulted about a possible lab leak, and he exchanged some emails with Fauci in 2020, kind of like expressing like, you know, we're like analyzing this virus genome and like, are we sure that this wasn't a lab leak?

January 2020, this is part of the emails.

Oh, so before the papers came out.

Before the papers came out.

So he's questioning things before the papers even came out.

Right.

This was February 1st.

So Christian Anderson is talking to him in January 20, Dr.

Fauci in 2020 is like, in an email, we need to investigate this further.

They have a Zoom call in February.

In March, this guy who already was skeptical is sending out, is putting out propaganda that this was definitely from the wet market.

Right.

Exactly.

That is suspicious.

What happened in that Zoom call to give him, to make him do a complete 180?

I don't know, except for the fact that it was a big ask, Megan.

It was a, okay.

Yeah, that's wild.

Okay.

Okay.

So yeah, so originally, Christian Anderson's like, I don't know about this.

Then, so when that like article comes out, it was the Lancet article comes out, and there's this whole like press conference, and Fauci, Dr.

Fauci gets up, and he's like, you know, like he basically says, like, it's, an article was just published.

I don't know the authors on this.

I don't have the names of the authors to tell you, but like, you know, it went from animal to animal to human, and that's, we know that for sure.

This is the article that he's referencing this article.

I'm sorry, you were on a phone call with all of the authors, not even a month ago, and you're telling me you don't know the names of these authors.

Yeah, this seems like his fingers were all in in this, and now he's trying to play it cool in his press conference.

Like, oh, this great article just came out.

I'll have to get it to you.

I don't know who wrote it, but these are all the people in your little conspiracy circle.

Exactly.

Wow, okay.

Kind of weird, right?

So this is what we're being told early in 2020.

It came from, I remember this.

It came from bats.

They ate the bats, you know?

And this is, anybody basically who's saying it's lab-made is a conspiracy theorist.

I remember this happening, and I remember fighting and being like, this is crazy.

This smart guy, Dr.

Fauci, he knows what he's talking about.

Why would you even question him?

This is what's happened.

It's like, but now I'm looking back and I'm like, yeah, how can it transmit?

I mean, again, I always thought, oh, this probably just came from a lab, but I guess I didn't realize the, like, intentional cover-up that was happening.

Exactly.

Like, I just thought everyone was confused.

I was like, come on, let's be real.

This probably just came from a lab.

But this is so much more conspiratorial that, like, we have science, the face of science, conspire with all these other scientists to mislead the public on where it's coming from.

My question is, like, why do you think they're misleading it, Megan?

Well, I want to know.

I asked you.

Okay.

What is the motive for all of these bigwigs to risk their professional reputations?

What is the motivation for Tony to lie to us?

Tell me.

Okay.

So 2014 Ebola outbreak.

You know about this.

Yeah.

Okay.

Ebola broke out in Western Africa in a place that it had never been seen before.

Okay.

Okay.

So the Ebola virus is named after a river because it was found in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, formerly known as Zaire.

So it first was first outbroke in this river.

This isn't, we're in Africa, these people go to the river to drink the water.

The water has Ebola in it.

So when they drink the river water, they get Ebola.

Right.

Okay.

And then Ebola just has this terrible, basically it sends your body into DIC.

You nausea, vomit, and then you basically go, you get septic, go into DIC, and then you die.

Like bleeding from all your orifices.

Right.

It's terrible.

It's a terrible virus.

And a lot of it's because in Africa, they don't have the nutrition like we do.

They don't have the clean water.

They don't have, and so they can't, you know, stay hydrated the way that we can.

So really, it's devastating because these Africans just don't have the resources that we do.

And that's sort of how we treated Ebola here, is like we just, you know, we supported their fluid and electrolyte balances.

And as long as you support their fluid and electrolyte balance, they were able to get better.

So 2014, but this is this, so where it originates in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, completely different place than where it popped up in 2014.

In 2014, people are like saying to themselves, how did it get here?

How did Ebola get?

Suddenly pop up in the water.

Just suddenly pop up over here.

And it was theorized that like there was gain of function research being done because they wanted to...

I'm pretty sure it's like...

I understand that the vaccine for Ebola has been trying to be developed.

That has been something the CDC has been, and NIH have been working on.

And part of the reason why people do, like I said, when I read you the...

The definition.

The definition of gain of function research, it is because we want to develop vaccines for these viruses.

So part of it is like, it's research so that we can develop a vaccine, but also it can become dangerous.

So it's theorized that the Ebola...

I mean, this is another whole other conspiracy that people, we could talk about, but basically it's theorized that gain of function research is the reason why there was this huge outbreak in this specific part of Africa, because it otherwise would have never been able to get to that point.

And that was the whole thing about Ebola, is like Ebola pretty much stayed in this Ebola river, and it lied dormant until it decided to come out again.

So again, it was specific to this region in Africa.

We know what else happened in 2014, Megan?

What?

The US halted funding for gain of function research.

Because they knew that Ebola was from gain of function?

I mean, I'm sure it had something to do with that.

They were probably like, oh, hold on a second.

Okay.

Yeah.

And this is Tony Fauci has been all over gain of function.

Yeah.

Let's go back to the fact that he loved gain of function.

This is what he's been doing and studying his whole time at the NIH.

Okay.

Let me talk to you about, okay, so just keep that in the back of your mind.

I just want you to have that little kernel of information in the back of your mind.

2014 Ebola outbreak.

No more gain of function.

No more gain of function.

Okay.

What do we know about the Wuhan Institute of Virology?

What do you know about that, Megan?

I know it's a, I do know it's a level four lab.

Yes.

Which I only really know about because again, our coverage of Plum Island, because the Plum Island in New York was like a level three, I think.

But when they moved to Kansas, became a level four.

And I was like, this makes me so uncomfortable, because that means it's not animal to animal transmissible diseases.

It's animal to human transmissible diseases.

Exactly.

And so the Wuhan Institute of Virology is also a level four, correct?

Yes, but it didn't become a level four.

It opened in 1956.

Okay.

It didn't become a level four until 2017.

Okay, interesting.

In 2017, like you said, it became a level four, where it basically was able to study...

Human, human...

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the Wuhan Institute of Virology is most famous for researching coronaviruses.

Interesting.

Very interesting, okay?

2018, it becomes a biosafety level four, okay?

Okay, a year before this corona outbreak, this coronavirus lab that is studying, that is upgraded to a level four lab, to do...

It only takes a year for this freak outbreak to happen in the same city.

But were they doing gain of...

Well, I guess, yeah, because only US outlawed gain of function, right?

So gain of function in the US becomes...

It's lifted in 2017, okay?

So 2017, gain of function's lifted.

2018, Wuhan lab opens...

It's been open.

It becomes leveled up to a level four, okay?

Okay.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't know if you knew there was $1.1 million sent to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2018.

It was sent during the Trump administration and the USAID, who has been all over the news.

Stop, what about it?

They are the ones that sent $1.1 million to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

And what was that money to be used for?

And the funding went straight towards advancing researches on viruses that could pose a harm to human and animal health.

Interesting, right?

Interesting.

Although, it was never, quote, authorized for the funding of gain-of-function research.

However, seems pretty interesting, right?

Right.

That all of a sudden, gain-of-function research is banned in America.

This Wuhan lab is, like, chilling, and 2017, people start talking, like, we're going to open up this.

You think they're just outsourcing?

I think that's exactly what happened.

They outsourced the gain-of-function.

They paid them to study the virus.

There is a trail of money that shows that they paid them to study whatever it is they wanted to study.

It really does feel like Plum Island 2.0, except on a much more fatal scale.

And then in 2019, the Trump administration stopped the USAID's work on this project.

So this is just like a rough timeline.

Like 2017, they start leveling up.

They start talking about like, we're leveling up, Wuhan's leveling up to a level four.

2018, they get $1.1 million.

And then in 2019, Trump's like, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this anymore.

And then all of a sudden, we have an outbreak, COVID, that starts in Wuhan.

And then in 2021, the Fauci emails become publicized.

But the Fauci emails completely redacted.

I'm so over the redactions.

Yes.

I mean, all you can see is like, dear Dr.

Fauci.

And then it's like, thank you.

It's like black, black, black, black, black, black, black line, black line.

Thank you.

And then whatever, whoever they're from.

Christian Anderson.

And like, these are the emails that we're getting.

We're like, wait a second, what?

Yeah.

What are you hiding?

What are you hiding?

They've since actually, like I said, they've actually now been discoverable to the public.

Like they've been released to the public.

And again, let's go back to Christian Anderson talking to Dr.

Fauci in January about how he thought that this was actually a bioengineered virus.

In 2024, we have the Fauci hearings, where basically Fauci went before Congress, and they discussed whether or not, you know, he lied to the public, because all of this research is coming out that's actually saying, you know, like, this actually didn't happen.

Like bats, this didn't like jump from a bat to a bat to a human, and then suddenly becomes so smart that like it created a whole dang pandemic.

And Fauci sat in front of Congress and basically said like, there's clips of him going, I cannot recall, I cannot recall, I cannot recall.

That's what they all said.

And then also, I get a lot of emails in a day.

I cannot recall, I cannot recall.

You guys can go look it up on YouTube.

The amount of times he says, I cannot recall.

He basically was, in 2024, this, they basically like said, like there's no evidence that supports that he knew anything about this.

So yeah, so 2024, the Fauci hearings, basically nothing comes from it, right?

Congress basically says like, we cannot confirm nor deny that there's any involvement of lying to the public.

But January 20th, 2025.

Sort of almost breaking news.

Biden's last day in office.

The pardon.

Pre-pardons Tony Fauci.

So I have a mixed list, and I think that, again, the virus ended up being very politicized as we talked about.

And so I think that people would argue on the one hand that Trump was coming in and he was such a bully, and they were just trying to protect Fauci.

But at the same time, a blanket pardon for your family and Tony.

And it's not even a...

It's a pre-pardon.

Yes, it's like anything that is discovered in the future, he cannot be tried for.

Let's not forget, in 2021, he was appointed the Chief Medical Advisor by President Joe Biden.

He is appointed the guy.

This is the guy that we are looking for for all medical...

He is science.

He is science.

Exactly.

And then 2022, the year the emails are coming out, he retires and GTFOs.

And then 2025, hours before......Donald Trump becomes the 47th president of the United States of America.

He pre-pardons Dr.

Fauci, and he says, quote, The issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgement that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt of any offense.

Our nation owes their public servants a debt of gratitude for their tireless commitment to our country, end quote.

So basically, he's like putting a disclaimer out there and saying, like, just because I pre-pardoned him doesn't mean that he actually did anything wrong.

But like, I'm sorry, a pre-pardon, my guy, he's guilty.

I was just curious while you were talking there about, like, if Fauci financially benefitted from this pandemic, and shocker, he did.

Yeah.

Says, prior to the pandemic, he was worth 7.6 million.

Also, again, government employee worth 7.6 million dollars.

Why?

I just have all the questions about all the government, all the government employees who are worth millions.

You're like a, you make a couple, I mean, again, he's the highest paid.

I think he makes like 400,000 or something.

But like, why are you worth these millions?

Yes, he's a government employees who make 200,000, our senators, but are valued at millions and millions.

Nancy Pelosi?

Girl, why?

So anyway, it says that by the end of 2021, he was worth 12.6 million dollars.

But within two years, he made 5 million dollars, nearly doubled his net worth.

So interesting that he was making some kind of financial benefit here.

That's super interesting.

So I also want to kind of fast forward to just like a couple days after the pre-pardoning in 2025.

This is from a CBS News article.

Quote, the CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic was most likely originated from a lab.

According to assessment released Saturday that points the finger at China.

The CIA was investigating it?

The CIA investigated it and is saying that the virus is likely from a lab.

So let me ask you this.

Was this the first time that we were officially told by anybody that it could have been from a lab?

This is the first time basically that anyone has said like, and it didn't happen till after the party.

Five years.

Five years from the first e-mail saying it's definitely, but then also this happened right after the pardon.

Exactly.

That's suspicious.

So suspicious.

Okay.

Okay.

So also something that else was interesting enough, Megan, is that, you know, that little genome that I told you that made it stand out?

Yeah.

What was it?

The P?

Yeah.

It was related to the cleavage sites.

Yeah.

The cleavage sites.

PRRA.

You know what else?

Where else that is found?

Where?

The HIV virus.

You know what the HIV virus can do?

Lay dormant in the immune system and basically trick the immune system so it can't see it.

You know how COVID-19 basically spread so fast?

Because for 14 days, it laid dormant in our body, and we were the most infectious during that time where there was no symptoms.

So you think they manipulated the HIV virus and inserted that in to the COVID virus?

That's the theory.

Interesting.

And Fauci was?

An HIV guy.

An HIV guy.

Yes.

Wow.

Okay, but here's the other thing you didn't touch on as you're wrapping up.

Okay.

What did he have over all those scientists in the Zoom call that would get them to risk their careers and lie about the origins of COVID?

Oh, I'm so glad you asked, Megan.

All those guys on the Zoom call?

Yeah.

You know what they got?

What'd they get?

Money.

Follow the money.

That's right.

They got funding, personally signed by Dr.

Fauci himself from the NIH to fund all of their little scientific projects.

That is so corrupt.

I'm thinking that's called bribery money.

Yeah.

I'm thinking these people are...

Okay.

So now we have, I don't know how many, maybe a dozen faces of science that are all just lying to us about the science.

Does it not make you wonder what actually is right and what isn't right?

What else have we been lying to you about?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Wow.

All these medical journals that came out, literally they didn't even study it and they were just like, it's from a bat.

Yeah.

And now five years later, we're actually being told like, no, actually it was bioengineered.

Yeah.

I don't understand.

What I don't understand is why couldn't they just say that from the beginning?

I think Tony Fauci was trying to cover everything up for himself.

100% everything you've said.

This was a clear cover up.

Right.

And I feel like if you had just, and again, because I just kind of thought, oh yeah, this definitely came from a lab, and it was like, that's what happened, and what about my day?

But I didn't know it was such a big cover up, and that's what makes it so sketchy.

Like if you just come out in the past, in the past, I've been like, oh my gosh, we were studying this virus and somebody accidentally, because wasn't it like an employee, a worker was one of the first?

Yes, he accidentally did it.

And it was like months before, I think, we even heard about it.

Oh my gosh, they were talking about how COVID was a thing in like October of 2019.

Yeah, because I think there was like the military games or something.

Yeah, yes.

And it was like, and that was in like the fall winter.

Way beginning of it, and they sent people from the freaking Wuhan lab to this place, and this is where the spread start.

It was like Italy, France.

Yeah, everyone came home and got the virus.

Right, exactly.

And like Italy was like wrecked by the virus.

Like the whole thing was an atrocity, because again, the lives lost, the way, the impact this has had now on like everything.

Everything.

And I think, so you had mentioned the hearing, but wasn't there like an official, something came out officially from the government that said, it's a, maybe you said the CIA, but yeah, I thought the government released like a press release.

They did an investigation and they said like, yeah, this was definitely from a lab.

It confirmed everything we've been saying.

Right.

And then, and then we talked about the repercussions of everything we did, like the lockdown, the emotional and intelligence, and like all of the ramifications on our children who didn't go to school.

Right.

The loss of money from unrelated to us treating the COVID, the patients, but like the fraudulent claims, we lost like billions of dollars.

Yeah.

In unemployment, and people exploiting unemployment, and people exploiting like COVID tax relief.

Yeah, it just like the, the, are we ever going to come back from this?

Not really.

Right.

And the first, one of the first studies just came out that like the lockdowns were actually not effective.

There was no, like, and it just shows the stay at home order did more harm than good.

Like you said, like, the kids suffered.

We have, the American, during COVID, the American Pediatric Association said, it doesn't matter how much screen time your kids have, when before they were recommending only two hours.

But they had to zoom.

Right.

And so they're like, give them as much screen time as they want, because you need to stay at home.

And like, all of these, these masks, the way they made this mask, the research didn't support the masks.

The only research that was supported was the actual, the N95 masks.

And, but like these masks that they had us running around outside in, on the grocery stores, like these little simple surgical masks, where the cloth masks were a waste of time.

When is the common sense going to take over?

Well, and I think also this has really led to a distrust.

So, I think the like, as far as health care goes, they, the government report came out and said that this did lead to like worse, worse health care for the general public and like longer wait times and misdiagnoses.

But I feel like it has also, the anxiety amongst patients is so much higher than it used to be.

And there's so much more Dr.

Google.

Like everyone comes in and they're fighting you on your treatment because of Google.

And I get it, because you're like, I don't really have faith in medical providers anymore.

Yes, the medical providers because you guys lied to us for five years.

Right.

And so now I'm just supposed to come in and believe what you tell me.

And it's really sad because like we are just like the it's like the trickle down effect.

It's like we really just are like the ones suffering from this pandemic, from like being lied to basically.

And and we're the ones like at the bedsides with the patients.

We were at the bedsides in 2021, like watching people die from COVID.

And then now we're at the bedside still in 2025, dealing with like the distrust.

And like we aren't the ones like we're being treated like we're the ones that conspired against the public when really we were just doing the best we can.

I mean, every day we're just doing the best we can.

In 2020 and 2021, especially doing the best we can.

Like it just doesn't feel like, personally, it just like makes me angry to think that this guy who was the face of-

Yeah, don't question me.

The face of science, the face of the pandemic, who just is walking free after like lives and money lost.

Well, he's enjoying his millions of dollars.

Right.

And he got off.

That's the thing.

He got off.

And now he's pardoned forever.

It's just wild to me.

That is wild.

I have completely lost my respect for Dr.

Fauci.

I think this is going to make some people upset, but-

So yeah.

You know what?

There was something interesting I read about how, I think this goes into, I think we should cover anthrax in September.

Because there was something interesting about how, I don't know if anyone remembers, but after 9-11, we had this like anthrax scare that people were getting mailed anthrax in envelopes.

And it was all kind of fake, but like Fauci got his job in that in-room window when they're like, we have an anthrax outbreak, we need somebody to come in and lead things.

And so he got this job, and then they're like, just kidding, anthrax wasn't even real.

Yeah, it was like basically a hoax.

Yes.

And so like he got his whole job.

Based on a hoax.

Yeah.

But I do think we probably need to cover anthrax at some point, because that's kind of interesting as well.

Yeah, because anthrax was like a big deal.

It was like quicksand.

It was like, don't open the envelope, be anthrax.

Yes.

Yeah.

Someone could just mail something to your house.

Yeah.

So you and I agree.

Yeah.

Dr.

Fauci should be in jail.

Should be in jail.

This was definitely from a lab, which again, I did not think was a big mystery, but the fact that there was such a cover-up to prevent it and the fact that we have, I mean, I'm such a believer in science.

Every day when I make my decisions at work, I reference the literature, right?

And if people can just publish peer-reviewed literature, that is all just propaganda.

And like, what do I even have to believe in?

And that's, I think that's like the most, the most eggering thought of this all, is just like propaganda.

And what was the point?

Was it all just to like, cover Fauci up?

Yeah, I don't know.

It's just wild to me.

And then like, yeah, Dr.

Redfield, he was, he was unseeded as the director of the CDC in 2021.

Like he didn't, they got rid of him.

What's he doing now?

Now he's treating patients with long COVID.

Wow, what a guy.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, thank, this was interesting.

I'm sorry I fought you on it for so long.

This was really interesting though.

Yeah.

I'm sorry Colleen wasn't here to hear it.

I would have loved to hear her perspective.

I know, I would have loved to hear her perspective because Colleen has such an interesting perspective.

She does.

Yeah.

We'd have been getting mad and she'd have been cracking jokes too.

She might have had a little levity for this.

Yeah, exactly.

Or she would have just been angry with us because again, you guys all know we're all health care workers and it just feels like it just is upsetting when you were in it.

You're elbow deep in the COVID bullshit and you're still dealing with it.

Yeah.

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