Did Elvis Presley Fake His Death to Become a Pastor?

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Today we're talking about the king... the legend... Elvis Presley.  Have you ever been walking the streets and wave enthusiastically at someone you know like a little loser only to find out that person was a stranger?  The resemblance was just so similar, almost as if it was an identical copy of that person?  Doppelgänger maybe?  What if I told you there was a man out there so similar to Elvis, he just might be Elvis.  His connections to the family, his voice, his mannerisms... they make some people believe he might actually be Elvis!  Well today, we are diving in deep to determine, is Elvis still alive?  Or is this just another lookalike?  

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You found Elvis?

I think I found Elvis.

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Well, this is a sponsored, non-sponsored because we dug in Megan's mini fridge.

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I'm drinking a beer farm, local Maryland beer.

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Mine is called Post Shift, which I thought was funny because Megan was like, do you want a Post Shift beer?

And I said, yeah, of course, because I just got out of work.

But the beer is called Post Shift.

Perfect.

Do you have an intro for us?

I do, and I'm really excited for it.

It involves an accent.

Hold on.

Megan, thank you.

Thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to talk about the king, the legend, Elvis Presley.

You missed last week.

Thank you.

Last week, Kate said, I guess I'll be doing the accents today.

What accent did she do?

Hey, mate.

Oh, that's her only accent.

Anyways, thank you very much.

I love talking about the king, the legend, Elvis Presley.

Have you ever been walking the streets and see some of you know, and wave enthusiastically like a little loser, only to find out that that person was a stranger?

Yes.

I've done that so many.

I do that at work.

The resemblance was just so similar, almost as if it was an identical copy of that person.

Doppelganger, maybe.

What if I told you there is a man out there, so similar to Elvis, he just might be Elvis.

Bomp, bomp, bomp.

His connections to the family, his voice, his appearance, his mannerisms, makes some believe he might actually be Elvis.

Well, today we are diving in deep to determine is Elvis still alive?

Or is this just another lookalike?

Yeah, do you believe it?

Do I believe that Elvis is still alive out there?

Yeah.

Do you, well, the full conspiracy is, did Elvis fake his death and restart his life in a different identity?

No.

I don't either.

Mostly because-

You're not even gonna try to prove it to me.

No, I'm gonna try to prove it to you.

I'm gonna reiterate how the internet proved it to me, but guys, as per usual with the Colleen presented episodes, every single source I have today is from TikTok.

And I was talking to Megan, and all of them are those videos where a video was clearly screen recorded.

And then there's like a little man in the corner singing to like, disrupt the audio so they couldn't get copyrighted.

And that's what all the videos were.

So real good sources here.

Yeah, but I'm gonna make Megan watch them all.

And we're gonna make you watch them all because they'll be on the website and the Instagram.

Yep.

The man in question, his name is Bob Joyce.

Bob Joyce.

Have you ever heard of him?

No.

Probably not.

He is a, I don't know why I have.

He is a small town pastor in Arkansas.

Okay.

That's his claim to fame.

I don't know who discovered him.

Like, I couldn't search the internet enough to find the origin of this conspiracy because all of the links that popped up when my searching directed me back to TikTok.

Couldn't tell you.

But Bob Joyce, pastor in Arkansas.

People are dead set on believing that Bob Joyce is Elvis Presley.

There's many different reasons.

I have the proof proof that is not really proof.

And then I have the proof proof that sounds pretty proof proof.

But I don't have proof proof of the proof proof.

It's just like what the TikTok said that sounds about right.

Okay.

You lost me.

But okay.

I assume he denies that he's Elvis.

No.

That's part of the proof proof that sounds like proof proof.

Okay.

Let's hear it.

So the first step is music.

Bob Joyce is a pastor, and he often involves music in his sermons, because it's like a non-denominational church.

A mega church?

No, it's not a mega church.

It's called Household of Faith Church.

This is his Facebook.

Yeah.

I'm looking up for a closer picture, because he doesn't really look like him there to me.

Yes, he does.

Those are like the...

He's got sort of the hair, and he's got a beard in white.

You're telling me that doesn't look like Elvis?

Hold on, we'll get there.

Okay.

So the first things are his mannerisms when he plays the guitar.

Okay, this is part of the proof proof that's not really proof proof.

Bob Joyce often performs music that are gospel music, and he holds his guitar and strums the guitar in the exact same patterns as Elvis, which I wonder how accurate is that?

Because what if everybody just learns to play the guitar the same way?

Okay, I gotcha.

And then he also tunes his guitar in the same chords as Elvis.

Yeah, we need someone who plays the guitar to...

Yeah, to really mix it up.

So let me play you a video of him playing.

I'm going to present each video with each plot.

Okay.

I see he's got a Spotify.

Oh, I didn't see that.

All right, this is them playing side by side.

I mean, they just...

Again, I'm not a musician.

My goal is to learn guitar one day, but they just both look like they're playing the guitar.

Like, I don't like...

Look at their hands.

Same hand pattern.

Same hand pattern.

What do you mean?

Okay, she's showing me two side by side pictures where they both have their hands up in, like, a don't arrest me kind of thing.

And I mean, everyone's done that at some point, so I'm not really sure.

Same man right there to me.

Okay, you're so full of it.

This is ridiculous.

This is ridiculous.

This is a TikTok that has been posted.

Okay, so that's the music and the...

So again, I just want to reiterate, you just showed me a picture.

Yeah.

Side by side, two men with their hands in a position that we've all done at some point.

Yeah, but did you watch him playing the guitar?

He's not even playing the guitar in that one picture.

He just has his hands up, and you're like, look, their hands look the same.

Yeah, but did you see how they were playing it?

They were playing the guitar like...

Like they were strumming the strings.

Every single person plays the guitar.

That was ridiculous.

That was a waste of my 30 seconds of my life.

Okay, so the next one is his preaching, okay?

Now, the next clip I'm going to show you is a clip where he allegedly, hold on, he allegedly claims to call himself Elvis.

Okay.

Okay, when the video prompts Elvis in red is the part of the video where he allegedly says Elvis.

Okay.

So listen closely.

Well, where's Jesus?

Elvis, find Jesus.

He can do it.

Elvis, find Jesus.

Where's Jesus?

Elvis, find Jesus.

As he's Elvis.

Like you just think he just misspoke referring to himself.

As Elvis.

He didn't say Bob, find Jesus.

He said Elvis, find Jesus.

I'd like to point out that the video has like water.

What's it called?

Yeah.

Watermarks.

Watermarks that just say Bob, Joyce, Elvis in the background.

And it's also like it's not great quality.

So like, what even is that?

How do we know that audio even matches?

Don't fact check my facts.

It's like pacing back and forth kind of far away.

It's black and white.

It's like, where's Elvis?

Find Jesus, Elvis, find Jesus.

I feel like you could dub that.

And all the comments are like, he said, where's Jesus?

Help us find Jesus, is what he allegedly said.

But I don't know, guys, they had me for a second there when I saw this first on TikTok.

But then I started to pursue further research.

Yeah.

And yeah, what would what was Elvis Elvis's motive to fake his death?

OK, well, part of the proof proof, I'll tell you now and we'll go into a market.

Part of the proof proof is that he marries his old girlfriend.

Bob, Bob Joyce is married to one of Elvis's ex-girlfriend, allegedly.

Hmm.

OK.

OK.

I guess we just started talking about this random person.

So yeah, I don't know how Bob Joyce came up.

OK.

Somebody just like social media was like, oh, my gosh, this guy was like Elvis.

And it's hard to this whole thing.

I actually think it originated around the time when Priscilla.

No, wait, what's her daughter's name?

Is it Priscilla?

Oh, no, Priscilla was his wife, the 14 year old wife, the child bride.

Yeah.

Lisa Marie.

I think it was Priscilla's funeral.

Okay.

Because a part of the proof proof that sounds like proof proof is that Bob Joyce was invited to the private funeral of Priscilla.

And that's how they found him.

Okay that's suspicious.

Right, right, right.

So the next one are his facial features.

Okay.

So you've seen a little bit of the clips where they match up his face to Elvis's face.

And so let me show you a couple more.

He allegedly has a crooked pinky on the same hand.

And it's the same crookedness as Elvis, Bob does.

And allegedly, this one made me laugh.

Allegedly, his hand veins, the veins in Bob Joyce's hands, align with Elvis Presley's veins.

But then I was like, do we not all have the same veins in the same spot?

We do, I guess, do they do like a hand-on-hand?

I think they were just visualizing hands from the guitar.

Okay, this is a rough one, Colleen.

I was looking for conspiracies.

Okay.

This found me.

This was on my For You page.

Okay, let me find the video of him playing.

Okay, does this not just look like Elvis with white hair?

I mean, it kind of just has that-

That sounds like Elvis to me.

Look, he's dancing just like Elvis.

OK, he's hopping side to side.

He looks just like Elvis.

He's not even doing like the Elvis moves.

That's Elvis.

That's so clear, Elvis.

Elvis never...

Are you messing with me?

This is what I found.

There's no association there.

The comments are literally popping off about this.

OK, so that's his...

And so apparently he also has a scar that matches up.

OK.

His voice.

I've played you multiple examples of his voice at this point.

His own...

He has two children.

OK, two boys.

One looks identical to Elvis.

Don't ask me for pictures.

Have you seen pictures?

No.

OK, the second one, his second son is an Elvis impersonator.

And then, oh, I need to find this one.

There's one video of him walking, walks the same way as Elvis.

OK, those were the proof proofs that don't really sound like proof proof.

And now I have the proof proof that like, OK, maybe it could be proof proof proof.

OK.

OK.

And I'm going to just prove them as I go through.

OK.

OK, because the others, like, I feel like you can clearly disprove those.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know if you felt like that.

But Bob Ross, married to Elvis's old girlfriend.

OK.

Yeah, your name.

What did Elvis even have old girlfriends?

I'm so glad you asked because he was dating Priscilla when she was like 14.

Yeah.

So Bob Ross, you keep Bob Ross.

You know, and it's I did not even realize I was doing that.

Bob Joyce.

So is Bob Joyce married to Elvis's ex-girlfriend?

There is a photo of Elvis alongside a beautiful young lady who everybody predicted is his ex-girlfriend, this lady.

OK.

And they all said her name is Wilena, OK, which just so happens to be Bob Joyce's wife.

That is a picture of Bob Joyce's wife with the lady.

OK.

OK.

The difference is this is not Elvis's ex-girlfriend.

That is a fan that he was photographed with.

OK.

In nineteen fifty-nine.

And it's not.

And it's not Bob Joyce's wife.

Bob Joyce's wife.

This is a photo of a fan whose name is Sigrid Schultz.

OK.

That is Bob Joyce's wife.

OK.

OK.

The photo of Elvis with that lady was taken in nineteen fifty-nine.

That is Bob Joyce's girlfriend or wife, fiance, whatever, in nineteen sixty-eight.

So she would have been a child.

And she's younger in the nineteen sixty-eight picture.

And then this is their like marriage license and birth certificate information to prove that.

OK.

And then the other theory is that Bob Joyce and Elvis have the same scar of their eyebrow.

They don't.

OK.

And then probably the biggest proof.

Wait, so one of them has a scar and one doesn't?

Yeah.

But everybody.

Who has the scar?

Elvis has a scar.

OK.

And probably the biggest proof against this all is that Elvis would be eighty-seven today.

And Bob Joyce is seven.

OK.

So disproved.

And on top of that, he's probably he would if he were alive, he'd probably be an old lady.

Yeah.

But if I didn't tell you that part, OK, listen to these.

And like, this is why the Internet thinks that.

OK.

So first of all, that's a sister's picture of a girlfriend disproven.

Bob Joyce was allegedly at Elvis's daughter's funeral and Priscilla's funeral and allegedly had his own private bodyguards.

Why would he do that?

Part of the family, maybe is the Elvis, maybe.

But I have no actual photograph of him being at the funeral.

This is just what the Internet says.

A mysterious book, Bob Joyce says, has been publicly interviewed saying he's writing a book to explain it all.

OK.

And he said this in multiple interviews, but he says he will not publish it till after he does.

What's he having?

That is Elvis.

Maybe he likes the attention.

I don't know.

And allegedly, there's no photos of Bob Joyce before 2011, because that was when Elvis was in witness protection at some point, and he would have been released from witness protection in 2011.

But you can log on to Bob Joyce's Facebook.

And he was out about this one got me a little bit, maybe a little.

In Elvis's birthplace, it had a very specific pattern of wallpaper.

This is how crazy the people in the internet are, okay?

A very specific pattern of wallpaper, okay?

Bob Joyce was photographed in his childhood home.

In the background of his childhood home is a framed photograph of an elderly lady in front of a wall with the same exhibit wallpaper.

And allegedly, that photo is Minnie May, which is Elvis's grandmom.

Okay, there's a photo of him with a photo in the background that someone has been able to zoom in on and get a clear enough image.

Okay, let's see it.

I'm skeptical.

Which one had it?

It was like the reasons why it's not Bob.

Okay.

Okay.

If you could see this video, we're like, and here she is in the background in a photo.

You can't.

Is that even or maybe I see hair.

Yeah, that's just I see a little bit of brown, a brown dot that I would say is hair.

Yeah.

No facial features.

I couldn't even see the outline of her body.

Yeah, that's her.

This is ridiculous.

Look at this.

Boom, boom, boom.

Okay.

The pic of the bottom picture is this.

Okay.

No.

First of all, even if it was a wallpaper, that is where they zoomed it in from.

Is that not the funniest thing?

They got me.

They got me.

I was like, oh, many men.

No, many men.

Okay.

This one made me laugh.

His teeth.

Bob Joyce and Elvis Presley apparently shared a dentist and have the same porcelain fillers to fill the same gap between their teeth.

Bob equals Elvis.

Right.

Elvis had a gap, and this guy doesn't, and they think he filled it.

No, they both had a gap.

They both got it filled, and they both had the same dentist, allegedly.

And so people were just saying, oh, it's just the same man, then.

But like, he wouldn't, Bob wouldn't have to get his teeth filled if he was Elvis, because Elvis had already gotten the gap filled.

Oh, I did not think of it like that.

So that just alleged that Elvis died, removed his dental prosthesis, then Bob Joyce, who now has a gap because he's Elvis, goes back to the dentist to get a dental prosthesis.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

I feel like he already had it.

He'd need to keep wearing it.

OK.

And then Elvis's life insurance was never cashed in on because he never died?

Question mark.

And then apparently every time Bob travels, he travels with an entourage of security, which like little suspicious for a small town pastor.

But is he really a small town pastor?

You don't think he's like kind of popping off like and then apparently Bob was seen going up stairs at Elvis's home in Memphis, which is something that like nobody goes upstairs except for family.

But it was like somebody was interviewed seeing him go upstairs and like hearsay.

Yeah, hearsay.

Yeah.

OK.

And then this one made me lol because I was struggling so hard to like determine this one.

So Bob Joyce, pastor, preacher has a Facebook.

OK.

A part of his congregation is a man named Edward Tracy.

The drummer for Elvis was named Edward Tracy.

So there are screenshots.

Edited?

I don't know.

Of text messages between Edward Tracy and Priscilla talking about how, quote, the church is safe and that he would protect her if she ever came to Arkansas, which is where Bob Joyce's church is.

OK, so everybody's claiming that this Edward Tracy is the same Edward Tracy that was Elvis's drummer.

And thus, Priscilla wanted to see Bob.

OK, OK, let me show you the screen shot because they're like my favorite.

OK, that yeah, that's not the same person.

And he looks like an Amish man.

OK, so this is a picture of Edward or Elvis's Edward Collin of Edward Tracy, Elvis's drummer.

It's literally just some random man fan DMing Priscilla and then like editing in her response.

Also, why is it in Comic Sans?

Because no, but did you see that first clip?

Hold on.

Look at that.

He doesn't even have a blue check next to his name.

Like he's just commenting on her.

It is.

It's it's literally a comment like on Facebook.

And it doesn't even say a little arrow.

Priscilla, Priscilla Presley.

And then it just like if you're ever in Arkansas, give me a holler is what it says.

Yeah.

And then it cuts to it cuts to a screenshot of DMs, but it just says to Priscilla.

It doesn't even end to confirm that it says Priscilla Presley.

So it could have been any Priscilla.

Yeah, this is suspicious.

Priscilla allegedly said, already knew it's fanatics like that needed to be taken out behind.

I can't even read it because there's like captions over it.

Regardless, it is so funny.

Oh, the fanatics will be taken out behind the bar and it should show up.

And then apparently this man, Edward Tracy, the alleged drummer, which I don't really think is the same man, comment like slid into Lisa Marie's DMs and was like, I'm so glad your father chose what he did in 1977 and then he's doing and what he's doing today in Benton, Arkansas.

He sure can preach.

So like he's claiming.

That's also such a weird thing to say.

It's a lot of details like back in 1977.

I'm so glad he came to this very specific location and does this very specific well, because he died in 1977.

I know.

I would like I just feel like you should be like, I'm really glad.

But like your father decided to do what he's doing or he didn't even comment back.

Yeah, like there's no proof she's acknowledging it.

It says, yes, so nice.

Oh, I didn't see that part.

That's the bottom.

Yes, so nice.

But this looks like I mean, you know what else you and I could text each other right now and make it look like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So fricking funny.

Why not?

Why not?

Is Bob, Bob Joyce, Elvis, different age, but he's 18 years younger than Elvis.

And we know Elvis probably would be older than his stated age right now.

Different head shape.

Bob's wife is Wilena and she is not the girl photographed with Elvis.

And everything else sounds like not real.

Okay.

Like what would be his motivation?

Well, motivation could be his own life insurance policy, but it was never cashed in.

It could be getting away from fame because if you watch the movie, he was trapped in Las Vegas.

Don't you think if you wanted to fake his death, he would do something better than being remembered as the man who died on the toilet?

Or maybe that made it easier for him to fake his death because they'd be like, of course he died, because how embarrassing to die on a toilet.

How organic.

I don't think that's organic.

You know what I mean?

Okay.

And what?

And he just was tired of being famous.

Yeah, maybe.

Okay, you're killing me, girl.

Okay.

Oh, and then also, if you go on his Facebook page, there's pictures of him younger.

Like, that's not Elvis.

How do we know he isn't like an Elvis Presley offspring?

Well, I didn't think of it like that.

Yeah, I guess I would also think if you were going to.

Fake your own death and you wanted to live in concealment, you know, why would you go to your own funeral?

Well, he didn't go to Elvis' funeral.

He went to Priscilla's.

Oh, it says here there's a rumor he was at his own funeral.

Okay.

Okay.

Maybe he did.

Same.

Same again, though.

Why would you go to the funeral and be surrounded by people that you were trying to?

Oh, the Tracy, Edward Tracy guy also.

If you go on to Bob Joyce's Facebook page, like his group page, like 90% of the posts are made by this man named Edward Tracy.

And that is allegedly Edward, Elvis' drummer.

But if you can go on to this Edward Tracy's Facebook page and he just shares the same name, it is not the same man at all.

It's just a man with the same name.

And that's how he got an in.

Man, another debunked Tik Tok.

And then here's the Bob Joyce with Younger.

I think that's not Elvis.

He doesn't look like Elvis.

That was the other thing.

Everybody's like, they're so similar.

That does not look like Elvis.

He oh, except for that clip where people think he said Elvis.

Yeah.

Has he ever said, I am not Elvis?

No, and he refuses to take a DMT.

He said he wants to wait until he dies.

Yeah, it sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

Well, his website's advertising CDs, so maybe.

Yeah, he's got a Spotify.

Yeah, he's trying to spread the word of Jesus.

You know what I mean?

Like an Elvis started in gospel music.

If you watch the movie, my source, the movie.

Anyways, so in the end, the question is.

Did Elvis fake his death, remove his dental crowns, became a preacher, married an old girlfriend to live a quiet life in Arkansas?

I'm going to say no, I'm going to say no.

Bob Ross, all the power to you.

Freedom.

Bob Joyce, all the power to you.

Freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech.

You're not Elvis.

No.

Also, like, why would he pick the name Bob?

His name was Elvis.

Yeah.

I don't know if you needed to travel for two weeks across the country to solve this mystery.

No.

I tried, guys.

It's just because I wanted to go to Dolly World.

Yeah.

What?

Was he in Dolly World?

Isn't Dolly World near Memphis?

Yeah.

I'm just going to direct.

I love conspiracies from TikTok.

I think the zoomed in photo was my personal favorite.

Yeah.

It's like seven hours between Memphis and...

I really thought they were right next to each other.

Knoxville is near.

That's crazy.

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