Flat Earth

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Have you ever like looked at the sun and tried to figure out the angle of the sunlight? Have you ever looked at your shadow or whatever? Have you ever actually seen the earth? Can we truly trust these alleged space images? The answer is simple. No. They are lying to us about one of the most important things. The shape of our planet. They tell us it's a sphere. But guys, there's just no way. Most definitely, we are living on a flat earth. And today I'm going to prove it to you.

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Hey guys. 

How's it going? 

What's cracking? What's crack-a-lacking? Murph is bouncing around between the three of us trying to get pets and cuddles right now, guys. And Tanner's just passed out like the in the sun. Like the lap dog he is. Guys, I just got back from Salt Lake City and I tried really hard to find these underground tunnels so I could film for you all, but, unsuccessful,

And the soda shops… 

I'm well, that's not really a conspiracy. 

You didn't see any soda shops? 

I was not in Park City. 

Is that where the Mormons are? 

Well, Salt Lake City is where the Mormons are. But I think most of the soda shops are in Park City. 

I mean, I think that would be really fun just for all of us to go. 

I know, I know. 

And Colleen just got back from Savannah. 

I forgot. Yeah, it was lovely. Which, by the way, little Freemason update... I told this to Kait and Megan, but there's a building in Savannah that's the first Masonic temple. And I went on a tour with my sister there and he said that building has no blueprints anywhere that you can find. They have no idea what's on the inside. 

That is so cool. 

I know. 

It's just so cool that you guys got to do that. 

I know, I just walked around it. I looked for security cameras. There was some, I was like, they're hiding stuff. Every window had a shade. You couldn't see through anything. 

Did you see the two gravestones? I looked. I didn't look when I landed because I didn't see your reel by then, but I looked when we took off and when we left Savannah, I didn't see it. But there is only like two... Savannah's airport is extremely tiny. It's like two runways. 

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Oh, yeah. She doesn't believe anything. She says, ‘follow the money’. 

She has no trust in any of the higher ups. 

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So is it time for our drink check? 

Drink check.

Guys, what are we drinking? 

Oh, well today I have a special, is it a Southern treat? 

Yes. Bojangles. It's really Bojangles, but yeah. 

Megan got me a sweet tea, and normally I don't like sweet tea, I find it too sweet, but this one really hit today. 

I had kind of a rough morning, very busy, and I was like, Kait's got a Bojangles next to her, so got some Bo rounds, got some sweet tea, and... Kait, you're drinking some coffee over there?

Drinking some coffee, you know. I don't like sweet tea. I grew up in the South. It's a sin, I know.

Oh my God. 

But I don't enjoy it. My mom even makes homemade sweet tea. 

Or sun tea, my mom always makes sun tea. 

Sun Tea? 

You put the tea in the sun. Yeah, you just put your tea bags in water and you cover it with, like in a pitcher, and you cover it with saran wrap and leave it out in the sun. 

And it's supposed to be good for the soul. 

Yeah. That seems like a hippie thing that you would be into.

Yeah, I'm actually kind of surprised you don't know that. 

Yeah, I didn't know that. I've had some sun tea. I'm pretty sure that's how our friend Emily makes her tea and she puts mint in it. 

Oh, yeah. She grows her own mint. It's so good. 

All right. So what are we talking about? 

Oh, yes. Speaking of sun tea, have you ever like looked at the sun and tried to figure out the angle of the sunlight? Have you ever looked at your shadow or whatever? You ever thought about that? 

Not particularly. 

Have you ever actually seen the earth? 

I mean, if you believe that all the aircrafts that have taken, but I mean, are we really in space, people? Can we truly trust these alleged space images? 

No, we can't. 

From the government? 

No. 

The answer is simple, just as Kait said. No. They are lying to us about one of the most important things. The shape of our planet. They tell us it's a sphere. But guys. There's just no way. 

Most definitely, we are living on a flat earth. And today I'm going to prove it to you. 

OK, guys, we have a confession to make. We are flat earthers. We are part of the society and everything. Earth is actually a sphere? Are you kidding me? 

Yeah. Also, if I went to the bottom, I would just fall off. 

Yeah, there's a ledge. Yeah. And I have a map of it too, by the way, we'll post it. 

Anyways, I have been a flat earther since I could read, I guess you could say. I've always believed it. I've got hard facts on this paper in front of me guys. 

Yeah, I believe it too. Colleen was the one that sort of introduced me to the conspiracy, if you will. 

Yeah, it's not a conspiracy. 

No, it's not a conspiracy, it's pure fact. 

Megan, what do you think? 

I don't know, I'm gonna wait, I wanna wait for you to prove it to me, okay? 

All right. So let's talk maps, right? Because I will tell you right now, the Earth is nothing but a flat circle with a North Pole at its center, just as Charles Johnson, one of our lead flat earther researchers, believes. 

OK, Charles Johnson, what a guy. 

Yeah, he's infamous. He specializes in flat earth. And it's so clear that the sunrise and sunset, guys, it's just an optical illusion. It's not a circle. The sun is always above us. 

OK. 

And the moon obviously shines its own light. That's fact. That's my proof. 

Yeah, wait, that's the proof?

So one of the earlier researchers for Flat Earth or his name was Samuel Burley Rowbothom. OK, he created our original map that we have of the earth. That is the real map. Whatever anybody else tells you is wrong. 

Okay. 

Rowbothom is correct. He created something that's called the Zetetic Astronomy, which explains the earth shape. And I have a picture of it to prove for everybody, which we'll post to the Instagram, of course. 

Hold on one second. Okay, so it's a circle. 

A circle. 

Is there anything on the other side? 

No. It's just hell. Darkness on the other side. 

Hell, okay. 

Yeah, and above us is the heaven vault. 

Okay, what about the sides? 

There's just like a void. 

Okay. Well, it could be a void, but you know, as we know, dimensions lay on top of each other. So if you go too far up, You enter a different dimension. 

Let me read a quote from Rowbothom and his Zetetic Astronomy. So it goes as follows: “The known world is a vast circular plane with the North Pole at the center and a 150 foot wall of ice at the southern limit. The equator is but a circle roughly halfway in between the sun, moon and planets circle above the earth around us. In the region of the equator at an altitude of perhaps 600 miles. That's how far away all the other planets are. Their apparent rising and setting is an optical illusion caused by atmospheric refraction and the Zetetic law of perspective. The latter law also explains why ships apparently vanish over the horizon when sailing out to sea. The moon is self-luminous and is occasionally eclipsed by an unseen dark body. passing in front of it. The entire known universe is literally covered by a filament or a fireman, so often referred to in King James Bible.” 

So first of all, the Wall of Ice is giving me Game of Thrones vibes. 

Yeah, I agree. 

Yeah, but that, you know what I mean? Based on truth. 

Can you clarify, oh yeah, I mean, Game of Thrones is definitely based on a true story. Can you clarify why, you said something about the ships disappearing on the horizon, why is that? 

It's an optical illusion because of the Zetetic law,

Like there's mirrors or what? 

I want to know what is the Zetetic law? That's just something Rowbothom came up with. 

Our savior. But more to it. OK, guys, the reason why we truly have to believe this, because if you don't believe that the earth is flat then you don't believe in the Bible, and I'll tell you why. 

OK, so I am going to mention a couple of biblical evidences for the audience to do with on their own. Your perspective of religion is your own. 

Wait, wait, wait. So, Zetetic Astronomy, basically it just believes, so it basically says that Earth is not a globe, and this was by Samuel Burley, Rowbothom. And basically, Rowbothom believed that the Earth is flat, the continents float on an infinite ocean, which somehow has a layer of fire underneath of it. 

Yeah. The lands we know are surrounded by an infinite wilderness of ice and snow and beyond the Antarctic Ocean bordered by an immense circular ice cliff. What we call the North Pole is actually the center of the earth. And there's no South Pole. 

Mm-mm, there's more ice. 

That's right. 

I'm gonna mention some biblical quotes that are my evidence. So if, and you can do this on your own, this is your perspective of how you interpret these, but this is hard facts for us Flat Earthers. OK, so the Bible says that Jesus rises up to heaven. There is no up if we're on a sphere. Boom, boom. And there's no down either. 

Yeah. 

Boom. OK. And it also states that the earth is immovable. So everything goes around us. So, and the order of creation, you know what I mean?

Okay. So let's talk about it. Are there beings on other, are there like living beings on other planets? Because you would have to think not if it's like all about us. 

We are the universe, yeah.

 So in Chronicles 16:30, quote, “he has fixed the earth firm and movable”, end quote. In Psalm 93:1, quote, “thou has fixed the earth immovable and firm”, end quote. Isaiah 45:18, “who has made the earth and fashioned it and himself fixed it fast." The Bible says we don't move, we don't move. 

OK. 

That is the only interpretation of those quotes. 

Is that how you interpreted it growing up in church, Kait? 

Yeah. And that's how and that's the only thought to me. 

You know, my mom used to take my brother and I to church every Sunday, but we didn't want to go. So she'd bribe us like if we go to church, we'll stop at the donut shop. 

Mm hmm. 

And maybe if I was a little more invested in the church part of it, a little less invested in the doughnut part of it, I would have… 

Yeah. 

I mean, I would have grown up believing. 

It came so easy to me. You know, I just one day I was like, there's no way. All right. So another. So for the for the people who need more science, I guess. 

You know, I need science. 

I love the Bible to me is science. But that's my perspective. 

So have you ever looked at a lake? 

Yeah. 

So Charles Johnson, his wife, Marjorie, the two of them had big roles in the Flat Earth Society, and they would do experiments on their land and particularly on the bodies of water on their land. So you look at a lake, if the planet that we're on is so-called spherical, would a lake not have curvature on the surface? You look at a lake and it's flat. 

Right. It's flat. 

Yeah. So the earth is flat. 

That to me, I read that and I was like, oh my, every lake I've ever seen has been flat. 

So another part of this is those people that created, like Galileo, that tried to tell us differently, tried to prove with shadows, you know, that the earth is spherical, okay, which is ridiculous.

Wrong. 

Yeah. They were just reformers that didn't like how the church was leading it, leading life, okay? And they try to fool you guys in the thinking it's a spherical. 

Tomfoolery. 

Liars. OK, you have to go back to the original text, the Bible, and exactly what it says word for word. Period. End sentence. Mic drop. The earth is flat. 

The earth is flat. 

Do you believe, Megan? I'm getting there. Kait, did you know that Colleen contributed to B.O.B.'s GoFundMe. 

B.O.B. 

Remember like years ago, that rapper? 

Yeah, of course I did. 

He had the GoFundMe because he wanted to launch satellites. 

Yeah. He wanted to raise a million dollars to launch the satellites. 

Oh yeah. To prove it, and Colleen told me. 

Yeah. Of course I donated. 

How much did you donate? 

About 50 bucks. It's too bad they didn't hit their goal, huh? 

Oh, it was a dang shame. 

B.O.B. Bobby Ray. 

Yeah. 

So you're saying if you, we can't really sail off the edge of the Earth because the ice walls will block us? 

Right. 

Just go back around. 

Oh, that's really reassuring. 

Yeah. And the tide sort of just pushes you away from the end of the Earth. 

Yeah. 

Okay. 

Yeah. Okay. And the tide has nothing to do with the moon. 

Okay, it's just the Earth. Okay. 

Nothing affects us. Okay, next trip. 

Next trip, can we take a cruise to the end of the Earth? Ice wall? 

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, and that's where we're gonna meet the Night King. 

This is Charles, he says, “Nobody knows anything about the true shape of the world. The known inhabited world is flat. Just as a guess, I'd say the dome of heaven is about 4,000 miles away. And the stars are about as far as San Francisco is to Boston.” 

Wow. You could get there in a day. 

Yeah, easily. 

Why? Yeah. He says, “That spinning ball thing just makes the whole Bible a big joke. Wherever you find people, with a great reservoir of common sense. They don't believe idiotic things such as the Earth spinning around the sun. Reasonable, intelligent people have always recognized that the Earth is flat”. 

Exactly. 

Very reasonable people believe that the Earth is flat. Yes. Straight from our flat Earth society leader, Charles Johnson. And we are reasonable people. 

I'm always I've always been reasonable, you know. 

Yeah, when they started talking to me about the Earth is round. Yeah, I said, get that out of here. 

No, that's all spinning ball thing. Yeah. Charles says, no way. 

Are you kidding? No way. 

No way. Also, guys, if you're interested, you can write a letter to the Flat Earth Society. They respond to everybody with these facts. OK, every letter sent in gets a response. OK, so join us. You have questions, you send them in. OK, all right. 

So, Megan, did we prove it to you? Yeah. I'm gonna be honest, guys… 

You're in. You're in, aren't you? 

We got her, guys. Ladies and gentlemen. Hook, line, and sinker. We got her. 

I mean, maybe a little bit. Flearther. 

See, she's reasonable, a reasonable person. I like to refer to it as being a flearther. 

Yeah. Put that on a T-shirt. 

Merch coming out soon, guys. 

Yeah. And you know what the merch is going to say? 

Flearthers are real? 

No. April Fools! 

To be clear, we are not flat earthers. 

To be clear, we find this to be extremely painful to even have verbatim. We don't believe in any of it. Obviously, the earth is spinning ball. 

I mean, your whole the water is flat is only true in a very small enough body of water. If you go find it, go up to Chicago, go to the big lakes. 

I do, like, this is when I'm like, guys, the church has gotta be better than this. 

Yeah. Come on. 

Well, I mean, they are now. 

Yeah. Right. 

And I mean, I feel like people are flying to say Australia. OK, you got to practically fly around the world to get to Australia from here. From according to Johnson, it's just that flat and big. You think the you think that like the pilot, every pilot is like in on this conspiracy and knows this.

Yeah, they keep it hush hush. 

Again, if you go, but this is so wrong. I can't even it's like... Why do you think there's different colors in the sky? Because light is on a waveform and it hits at different angles and that's what shows the color that we see in the sky. It has to not be flat. If it is not flat, I mean, sorry, if the Earth was flat, there would only be one color in the sky. Ever. 

And the fact that Charles Johnson legitimately felt like that the sky was only like 6,000 miles away. or 400 miles… 

One of them, like, his concept of like where the sun and stars are is berserk. 

And I'm also trying to understand, like, how can the sun be an optical illusion? 

Yeah. And they just so full heartedly believe verbatim exactly what the Bible reads, which is like concerning because there's like quotes in the Bible that are not appropriate. So I'm like, if you believe this part, then you have to believe the other parts or at least interpret it that way. 

Well, it's about interpretation and also like if you believe God gives you free will, which I do, then he also gives us free thinking. 

Yeah. 

So that we can interpret the world. 

Yeah. 

In the way and also the way some scripture seems, you know, one day your can read it one way and then you can read it a different way on a different day. And then it can speak to you in another way. So I disagree that like, yeah. that you can only read scripture in one way. That's just ridiculous. 

And their whole argument uses only I was shocked to learn how religious flat earth is the base of flat earth thing is. And like their only use of evidence is Bible quotes, which like is valid for certain topics, but not the shape of the earth. 

I also just think it's crazy that people are like... 

In my opinion, when somebody says the Earth is flat because, A, you know, people don't want to believe science or whatever. But like, you really think God is that small? I'm sorry. 

Well, that's what I'm thinking. 

Well, he posted in a day. 

Right. That's very...

Oh, also, if you believe in flat earth, you are 100 percent believe in the creation theory and not evolution. 

That’s how I personally like to believe that like science and God go together. And I know that everyone doesn't believe that, but that's okay. 

I think it's just very self-involved and centrist to… if that's the term… but I just feel like space is massive. And we are just this, we are like a speck in the grand scheme of things. But if you believe the flat earth theory, then we are really the center of everything and everything revolves around us. 

Ego-centric and the earth doesn't move. 

Ego-centric is what I'm looking for, yeah, yeah. And I guess I'm still confused about, so like the moon and the sun go this way? 

Yeah, around the earth. 

Like around the circumference of the earth. 

Yeah. The flat earth. 

Okay, yeah. Yeah. Anyways,fools. 

You know what? If there is a flat earth out there that's listening, we would be happy for you... Let's act in a respectful way. 

Yeah, no, that's what I was gonna say. I mean, I would love to hear what it, like what was the thing that had you buying into the flat earth? You know what I mean? Like. 

Yeah. Tell us what really won you over.

Yeah. If. You would like to. If you'd like, we won't bully you. I just really am curious and want to know. 

Very nice. But I want to hear your, I just want to hear your perspective. 

Yeah. What was it that made you a flearther? What did it? 

We'll also, we will post our response that we get from the Flat Earth Society on Instagram. 

Yeah. 

But before this episode gets post, we're going to be posting as if we're Flearthers. So I'm sorry if any of my the stories and posts we've made has bothered you for the last couple of days. 

To be clear, one more time. April Fool's. 

Yeah. April Fool's. 

We believe in a spherical earth. 

Yeah - That rotates around spinning ball thing. 

Yeah. I'm into that one. Yeah. 

Eight and a half planets in our solar system. 

Pluto's a planet again, isn't it? 

No, it's half a planet. 

Oh, right. I don't know. I can't keep up with. 

All right, Kait, have scroll on down… 

All right. Yeah. If you have enjoyed this episode, scroll on down. 

That's how Colleen said.

 Oh, yeah. Did you like my impression? 

I died.  And then I listened to the Freemason one, And you really did… 

I was spot on. Yeah. I'm good at copying people. 

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Are we gonna even do a poll on this one? 

The poll is- Flat Earth? Flearth, question mark, and that's it. 

All right, we'll see you guys next week. 

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